Maybe we could move the narrative to “here are tools that will help all of us move away from mindless dopamine traps into a world where we can increase the signal and meaningful interactions in our social feeds”. nostr:note1teyjjhyeplemzjvdhfg5y2nk8z2s8rmyu7v5r7vj47x6mfm2drdqh8ke4l
Discussion
Proposal: have a setting for “prefers discourse”. When an author enables this setting, they will not see reactions, AND readers will see some visual indicator that the author would much prefer actual content posts than a simple reaction or zap.
This honors both the author’s and the reader’s preferences. The reader knows the author won’t see the like, but they still have the choice, and they know that their content response is extra appreciated.
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实际上，我们让任何行为中带有闪电聪矢量值，就像人脑神经系统在计算自己时，会获得多巴胺和内啡肽神经递质奖励一样，
尽管来自神经递质的奖励是微不足道的，却对整个自组织计算系统非常重要。
评论、转发或zap的10 Sats只是消耗了非常少能量，它仅仅只是一种能量验证系统，
以降低系统熵值的方式让系统自身计算自己，而非依靠所谓永动机似的智能算法。
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I think a lot of people who are social media users don’t analyse about dopamine hits and stuff-they just use it and want an easy and straightforward experience-whether it is to get the news or a dopamine thing (which they may not know) The only zap option is different and new people may feel excluded and if they aren’t into or don’t understand wallets/Bitcoin, may feel this experience isn’t for them. I guess you have to consider as a developer-who is Damus etc target audiences? At present it is pretty niche-only zaps perpetuates this niche.
I haven’t removed likes and you don’t need to use zaps
Another approach that could be used: when reacting, drop the p tag referencing the event pubkey, if that pubkey has signalled they don’t want or care for reactions.
Doesn’t break other users experiences or expectations.
I still think if you don’t want to see reactions, literally just don’t query for kind 7. Client side 100%.
The only UX part that’s unclear is how does someone else know that this pubkey prefers to be paid instead of having reactions. Well, everyone would prefer to be paid (or remove lud).. so that kind of kills that issue.
I support the experiment, just not so set on the hard cut enforcement. And I think it’s not likely going to play out long term.. even messenger apps all just added standardised tapback reactions - unless all chat apps remove it, you’re breaking people’s habits and desired way to communicate.
I love having the option to turn off likes and other dopamine-addicting features.
I often check Nostr.band so I can catch up in between opening my Nostr app. If likes are a core metric to tracking what’s been popular, etc I’d be worried about finding what’s been popular.
Maybe # of replies / reposts will be good enough though and we don’t need likes? Wondering out loud…
For the uninitiated, who pays for the bits and atoms and joules sustaining this social network?
Replacing one ‘mindless dopamine trap’ with another one, one with monetary value attached. This whole thing feels more like a repackaged shuffle, of the same thing.
Kind of like adding money to a game, you’re just moving the reward (dis)incentives. Dopamine will just hit differently.
I’m not wholly against #onlyzaps, but I don’t think this particular kind of argument stands.
While both are dopamine mines, the key difference is that zaps have a limited quantity. They carry more weight and value than an infinite supply of likes.
Infinite?
Does an individual account not hold but one like, on one note?
Zaps are only constrained by monetary ability (and the protocol it’s based on).
Fair point. My usage of infinite was to express that a user is able to like every single note they come across without any cost of doing so.
Yes!! Other platforms turn us into dopamine addicts and treat us like ‘users’. Sick of being used in this way.
