Dangerous opinion:
Parenting is a form of taxation.
Spend 18+ years of your life working your ass off for free to raise kids, just so that the kids themselves can become the next productive slaves for our masters.
And so the cycle goes.
Sorry if this hits a nerve with many but always happy to discuss.
#grownostr
#childfree
#taxationistheft
#thinkdangerously
I'm happy that my kids are celebrating their 9th and 5th birthdays today. It provides me with a great opportunity to introduce them to Bitcoin at a young age. I'm confident that they will develop an interest in Bitcoin and become knowledgeable about it as they grow up.
Thank you for the reply and for considering what I wrote. I realize these are sometimes difficult things to think about as a parent.
What you say is a real struggle as a parent. People in this protocol has a better chance an exposure to this important topic.
We are fed so many lies by those seeking to exploit us. The concept that bringing new life into the world is somehow required for a full and satisfying existence is, I suspect, the greatest lie of them all. The worst part is that the poor kids being thrust into lifetimes of suffering and servitude have absolutely no say in the matter.
Like #antinatalism, we are taught nothing about money, about corporate profit models, about death and dying, or about how to live a truly happy life.
EVERYTHING we are taught is instead designed to keep us distracted, dependent, depressed, afraid, obedient, docile, dumb, poor, and (re)PRODUCTIVE FOR THE MASTERS.
As this thread nicely illustrates, most parents cannot even consider this. They have to retreat in their logic to idiomatic expressions such as “fill the earth” or non-sequiturs such as “but my child will be different”. Few, if any, will be able to overcome their guilt and massive cognitive dissonance associated with their failed reasoning to reproduce.
This much I can understand, as I would feel immeasurable sadness if I had forced someone I love into a life sentence of suffering and servitude. The mental gymnastics I would bring to bear would be no less impressive and desperate. I would likely also call out to religion or other “faith” based heuristics to help assuage my guilt.
The problem though, is that even though there are already 8 billion of us, we are all raised by people who have made the grievous error of reproducing. Expecting these same people to be able to acknowledge their mistakes while at the same time trying to overcome the massive machine that pumps us full of pro-life propaganda unfortunately means that the over-population problem is unlikely to be solved any time soon.
Since 1950 alone, we have gone from 2.5 to 8 billion humans. The implications of this are absolutely staggering to consider yet we’ll continue to hear virtually nothing about it.
Keep breeding folks, everything is fine, nothing to see here.
#grownostr
#thinkdangerously
To be fair, having kids for some is an important part of their loves and how you raise kids, the societies you encourage them to be a part of and the ideas you expose them to are a function of your own exposure and creativity. Most don't know they are being lied to constantly. Some wouldn't care even if they did. But many are questioning things and bringing up kids differently. Look at the increase in home schooling over the past 20 years! And at the extremes, look to the Amish for how distinct a culture can be while co-existing with sheeple culture.
Re overpopulation - I refer you to a lecture by Hans Rosling which elegantly explains what cause the population explosion from 2.5B to 8B and where this might go. TL:DR - pop explosion was a function of global industrialization improving life conditions at a time when people needed 6+ kids to have 2 survive to adulthood and will likely stabilize somewhere around 11b. We can discuss later if we can carry this or not. Here's the lecture if interested: https://youtu.be/2LyzBoHo5EI
Hey thank you for the link!
I’m always interested in incorporating new perspectives into my thinking and will definitely check it out.
My personal feelings on the matter of over-population is that a global population of approximately 50 million would be pretty ideal.
If we reduced the population by 50% with each generation by only having one child per couple, that would get us there in about 5-6 generations without too much difficulty.
Personally I plan on never having kids because I’ve seen it go wrong far too many times to maintain any naïveté about the actual risks involved.
As an example, pronouncing six teenagers dead after a roll over accident into a swamp and shallow drowning in mud would be enough to change some minds I think, but doing so day in and day out just makes you see the world differently I guess.
All those teenagers had great, kind, capable, and very well intentioned parents btw.
Happy thinking!
#grownostr
Just watched the video and yes, I completely agree with the guy.
I think the cat is out of the bag and we are most certainly going to end up with around 11B in the near future.
That level of over-population to me is absolutely next level dystopian and I struggle to even imagine the famines, conflicts, environmental damage, and scale of human suffering that will result.
You have managed to strengthen my resolve to never bring another pointless life into this catastrophe in progress. I didn’t think that was possible. :)
Are you with the WEF ser?
Nope. How did you reach that conclusion though? Would it help to confirm a pre-existing bias?
As for my mute list, I mute anyone that posts low effort content or begs for sats. I think you ended up on it because of the regular single word posts you make that just weren’t interesting.
Happy to discuss this topic further though if you’re up for it.
Hope those lungs are feeling better by the way. Your children deserve a healthy parent after all.
This user is clearly part of the WEF, and working hard on population control
Wrong. Fill the earth!
Care to elaborate?
The slavers want to limit the amount of children you have, so you cannot rise up against them. That is exactly what Pharaoh did in Egypt. God, on the other hand, has a way of blessing the poor. If the poor are fertile, it doesn't take too many generations before they rise up and overthrow their masters.
"Now there arose a new king over Egypt, who did not know Joseph. And he said to his people, “Behold, the people of Israel are too many and too mighty for us. Come, let us deal shrewdly with them, lest they multiply, and, if war breaks out, they join our enemies and fight against us and escape from the land.” Therefore they set taskmasters over them to afflict them with heavy burdens. They built for Pharaoh store cities, Pithom and Raamses. But the more they were oppressed, the more they multiplied and the more they spread abroad. And the Egyptians were in dread of the people of Israel. So they ruthlessly made the people of Israel work as slaves and made their lives bitter with hard service, in mortar and brick, and in all kinds of work in the field. In all their work they ruthlessly made them work as slaves. Then the king of Egypt said to the Hebrew midwives, one of whom was named Shiphrah and the other Puah, “When you serve as midwife to the Hebrew women and see them on the birthstool, if it is a son, you shall kill him, but if it is a daughter, she shall live.”
Exodus 1:8-16 ESV
Hmm. But why should our kids be the ones to overthrow the slavers? Can’t we just do it ourselves and hold off on having kids until the slavers are overthrown? Seems kinda cowardly to expect my kids to fight my battles for me, no?
On the other hand, if the slavers wanted to control me even more, they could very easily write a book whose contents I’m totally not allowed to question, and in it say all kinds of crazy stuff to keep me in line. Stuff like “have lots of kids cuz they’ll fight your battles for you”…
The reality in that case would be that the slavers actually want me to keep having kids, cuz those kids give them something they can leverage over me and threaten me with. They restrict my movements, take up my time, keep me distracted, keep me needing to work for the slavers because I have extra mouths to feed, keep me doing anything and everything but figuring out a way to overthrow the slavers. What a great system of control no?? Oh and slaver bonus! They can also be guaranteed a whole new bunch of slaves, generation after generation.
Hmm. What if the Old Testament was just another tool of subversion and control written by the slavers as opposed to the “word of god”?
Anyway, I appreciate the response. I know you’re just trying to explain your point of view using the language and tools at your disposal. It’s nice that you gave the matter some thought.
#grownostr
No. My tribe overthrows the slavers when my tribe increases. These things happen on God's timing or else you find that the new boss is the same as (or worse than) the old boss.
Yeah, they want you to have kids, as long as they can destroy their natural allegiances. They want slaves who are as atomized as you're talking about being.
Sure, there are times of great catastrophe when children should be avoided. The first century church was in such a situation. "I think that in view of the present distress it is good for a person to remain as he is. Are you bound to a wife? Do not seek to be free. Are you free from a wife? Do not seek a wife" (1 Corinthians 7:26-27).
They were in distress, as Christians continue to be in dozens of nations around the world, because the Bible creates people who are compliant in many important ways, but resistant to governments that go beyond their God-given bounds.
#JesusisLord
Thanks for the reply and for sharing your opinion.
I’m glad that you’ve found a way to make sense of the world.
From my perspective as someone who was never exposed to organized religion, I am less concerned with being right about anything than I am about being willing to consider all the possibilities on a subject and trying to understand how we all make sense of the world in our own ways.
This approach has served me well so far so thank you again for indulging me.
