Sending 1 sat zaps is very awkward and unprofitable

Usually have to pay a 1 sat base routing fee (100% fee)

Hopefully the channel doesn't close and lose that 1 sat that flowed into your balance

The relay now stores this note and pays bandwidth to everyone who wants to count it.

All for 1 sat....

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Hopefully 21 is ok 🀞

I don’t believe you send me some sats 🀣

What does a zero fee solution look like on nostr? Fedimints on relays?

Somewhere in the chain, someone is paying for hardware, bandwidth and chain fees. No such thing as no fees

Disagree. Things fall to marginal cost of production. Moore's law persists. 1 byte of data might as well be free today. That wasn't true 20 years ago. Tomorrow 1mb might as well be free. Show me a flashdrive smaller than 8gb I can buy from Walmart. Storage is trending at less than 25Β’ per GB now. 2 years ago it was double. 2 years from now it might be half. What's the size of this note? If it costs .0000000002Β’ to store this note it might as well be free because your competition will provide it for free to the user if you don't at that point.

Thorough response πŸ‘πŸ»

Between your Internet connection, hardware and chain fees you paid, it's not even close to zero.

Open a channel with me, I'll send you one sat then close the channel, we'll see how free it is πŸ˜…

My point is things get cheaper and trend to free because technology is deflationary.

I'm not sure you'd argue against that. Yes, I understand ⚑in its current state and I get your point. This is why ecash and Ark are something to follow closely. πŸ‘€

I dunno man, I see Bitcoin chain fees going up over time, and by a lot

fiat parallel is base chain = fed wire, lightning = ACH payments

-that we are currently using to send pennies.

Do you see a way to layer for lower fee zaps?

I meant 80iq

for example like stacker.news not charging fees when zapping posts there

But it’s a centralized site run by it’s owners

Same for podcasting 2.0 sat streaming: making 3000 donations of 10 sats instead of a single one of 30k.

Not really the best idea.

Nuking your channel states for no reason basically

🀣🀣 I even sent 1 sat for the note.

If we can't send 1 sat, or even a percentage of a sat, Lightning is a failure.