Can we get Nostr and Tor working better together?
OpenSats Announces Support for The Tor Project
This grant will expand The Tor Project's onion service team to enhance DDoS protection and ensure reliable, anonymous communication, crucial for Bitcoin and nostr users in censored regions.
https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/opensats-announces-support-for-the-tor-project/
Discussion
What would that look like? As I understand it, you could run a relay behind a hidden service right now. Do you mean that?
The way I see it there are two things. One is easy. Get relay software to by default or easily add and advertise onion services. The second one is to add tor support to clients so they use those onion service relays.
I think the big hurdle is client support because AFAIK, there is nothing stopping a relay from running on clearnet and Tor using torrc as we speak.
sincere question: who uses Tor?
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Almost everyone who runs bitcoin and lightning nodes.
I am a regular guy who runs a Bitcoin node. Why should I use TOR? The use case for nostr:npub1sn0wdenkukak0d9dfczzeacvhkrgz92ak56egt7vdgzn8pv2wfqqhrjdv9 is clear, but what about the public? Again, no irony.
Eventually they will make running nodes illegal for individuals and then you don't want your IP to be known to host a bitcoin node.
Apart from that, Tor is a convenient way for people to access their node when they are away from home, without having to open ports or the need for a static IP.
I would say the use case is to not become a Snowden. "The public" doesn't really mean anything (reference some of Ayn Rand's work) because it abstracts away the individual. Individuals other than Snowden have just as much reason to use Tor as Snowden by virtue of the fact that Snowden has to. That's the whole point. If we had nothing to fear then sure, no one would need to. Snowden proved that everyone has something to fear. Hence Tor.
That said, the individual must decide which tradeoffs to accept and when. For example, sometimes I just use Mullvad because it's faster and I'm okay with the tradeoff.
Me as of a couple of days ago to remotely access my nodes.
Nice try, FED!
I do, but not for everything due to how slow it can be. I use the browser mostly for research. I use it with my Bitcoin wallet. Looking into how I can contribute outside of donations (running hardware).
I spent the morning looking at the state of tor embedded for mobile apps and asking folks who work on the Tor and Guardian projects which libraries are working well. So the quip was because I’ve been trying to figure it out.
hand and glove working together❤️
there are several hundred tor relays now but few r active and many using self-hosted or gossip or amethyst to directly connect
That nostr web services that was announced looked like a good start I've always thought tor needs some sort of incentive mechanism to be more successful
Nostr Tor Bitcoin is a powerful mix
Enjoy the process of the development of decentralized communication. This is the way!
and IPFS. Not Filecoin, necessarily, but the storage network.
A home appliance that's a bitaxe and a nostr relay?
Just use Orbot on Android
Nostor
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