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Miljan, brother, would it be a problem for you to explain why all of these individuals are removed from being able to trend? I'm sure you have good reasons and I'm also sure this is a pain in the ass, but I feel transparency here is best. As Bitcoiners and Nostriches, we love freedom. You know this well. I also know that you're trying to build a top tier experience on Nostr and filtering spam is key in part of obtaining that goal. It's a hard balance. I get this! But I also believe to be the best, you have to sometimes do a bit more explaining than you thought was needed. We'd all like to know why these people were signaled out. It doesn't have to be overly in depth. Just some clarification. Thanks.

miljan 2y ago

Thanks for the constructive and nuanced question Derek!

Sure, happy to explain. Our approach here is very simple. At this time there are only two reasons why an account would end up on the "can't trend" list:

1. They are spamming or gaming the trending algo. We curate this list manually to best of our abilities, while we work on improving the algo.

2. They post adult content. We don't have anything against adult content per se, we don't block it elsewhere. Our decision is simply to not promote it in the trending feed because that's not the type of service we are building.

If anyone thinks they ended up on the can't trend list erroneously, please let us know and we will take a look.

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Derek Ross 2y ago

I do get the adult content issue. It's your choice as not everyone wants to or should see that. You don't want that service. Again, I get it. Do I want my 14 year old son that uses Nostr to see it? No, but I also know he can Google boobs and find it. Anyways, I truly to wonder if you could look into using filters that specifically look for that type of content instead of that user profile altogether. For example, Onyx.Vixen posts a lot of non-adult content. I like seeing her non-nude photos. I assume this could eventually be done with AI and image scanning. Would this be something for you to explore in the future?

Erik 2y ago

How do we handle anti-puravida actors?

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Just block and let them roam the abyss?

VelvetBlue_art 2y ago

It should be up to individuals CEO prude owners.

Nelly 🍁 2y ago

There's a trend list?

Derek Ross 2y ago

Clients such as primal, snort, and Iris have this feature. Others may too.

ralf 2y ago

and why am i on this list then?

Derek Ross 2y ago

#freeralf

Tony 2y ago

😄

TKay 2y ago

Ur too sexy. U trend too much.

Gildong.Hong 2y ago

🤣

Tico 🇨🇷 2y ago

Holy cow 🐄! You are making it wrong in this one Primal

#freeralf

Make an "appeal” option for those flagged in error 🥀

Forrest 2y ago

#freeralf

negr0 2y ago

Entonces si querés construir algo distinto no es #nostr el indicado para ti, arrancaste bien eras prometedor pero no es la transparencia que necesita nostr

shinohai 2y ago

nostr:npub12vkcxr0luzwp8e673v29eqjhrr7p9vqq8asav85swaepclllj09sylpugg still my favorite web app for #nostr. I repost all sorts of adult content, could give two fucks about appearing in the "trending" sidebar, and still see content from all my followers. What I *don't* see is spambots, and other low quality shit, and tbqh am thankful their team does the heavy lifting there.

I would like to see the feed and sidebar respect my mute list (so I don't see reposts of folx on it) but I'm 100% confident Primal's team will get that sorted in a future update. For now ublock takes care of the trending bar for me, and who knows? I might make a PR for the mute annoyance if time permits - but I'm not a funded dev I'm a mercenary.

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🐉AT ₿01 2y ago

1. Aren't yall the ones gaming the algo?

Hail Eris! 2y ago

May I humbly suggest the option to turn off the trending and/or follow suggestions sidebar? With the uBlock Origin addon this is done with the "enter element picker mode" option, but it would be nice to recover the page width for the sidebar and have the search move elsewhere when sidebar is removed. My reason is that muted accounts still show up in the sidebar, and most of the trending posts are useless things like "good morning", etc.

Thanks for your work!

Zachary Sunforge 2y ago

All censorship on nostr should be

decided on an individual basis by each user. You want quick premade auto updating block lists, fine but the user needs to choose that. If you want it on by default it needs to be made clear to the user how the block list is being created and where it's being pulled from. The only purpose of nostr is to be an uncensored social platform, everything else is tertiary to that.

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Willy Cooper 2y ago

I am glad you don't let "adult content" trend. Stops me from having to block so much.