This makes a lot more sense
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Whatβs a reputable follow?
Itβs arbitrary according to their internal metrics, they seem to take out the spammers & bots out of the follower count leaving you with βreputable followsβ
Tried it. I get ~5.5K instead of the 28K nostr band gives. Seems more reasonable
itβs insanely reasonable
now if you take into account that maybe half or more than half of the reputable follows are somewhat dormant, 2-6 months of inactivity, you get a realistic feel that translates to your daily engagement reach
A lot of us 2 year old npubs have ridiculous numbers like that
This is more reasonable yes
Mine says like 3k. A really popular post gets ~500 unique views in a day on nostr.build. Do with info that what you will.
You think reality is higher than this but lower than band? I have no clue honestly
No. Lower. I still think of my 3k at least 50% are probably people who dropped off or lost their keys π
Reputable is a very suspicious word π
Itβs bad marketing. I would change that word tbh. I can already see npubs complaining about this
what word would you guys use lol
Real instead of reputable
everything is a real follower regardless if itβs a bot or a spammer, the follow is real (it happened) now the question still stands is that real follower reputable or not..
I totally understand this. I just think a lot of people will get stuck at the reputable wording
ah maybe.. so far nobody except you and David but thatβs the great thing you guys can give nostr:npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup this feedback n see what he says
since itβs an open source thing I doubt anyone really will, they can simply fork it n name it whatever they want n see if their wording is more widely accepted
Maybe itβs just us π€·πΎ
I think itβs a great idea btw. Always thought the nostr band numbers were inflated
I follow npubs that aren't "real" people, but I find them valuable for other reasons. Not every npub included within what npub.world considers "reputable" is a real person, I am sure.
I can also tell you from running a WoT relay that there are still a fair amount of bots that make it into my WoT because people who I follow, and would therefore be considered "reputable" are also following bots, which would in turn make those bots "reputable" since it only requires one "reputable" follower for an npub to also be considered "reputable."
Pippellia explained here what he qualified as a reputable follow
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Yep, I read that one. He also gives more detail about how exactly someone is considered "reputable" here:
I agree with Miljanβs point. Itβs probably 80/20 lurkers/participants. This definitely cuts out the lurkers (who are also real). Maybe interactive follows would make more sense than reputable
True, but lurkers aren't posting anything to be unfairly filtered out, otherwise they're not lurkers.
> Whatβs a reputable follow?
great question!
some definitions related to our graph database:
1. a reputable node is one that passed our internal filters, and thus was added to the graph (point 4.)
2. an active node is one which contributes to the global Pagerank
3. a node get's promoted from inactive to active if it's Pagerank score surpasses a certain threshold.
4. to be added to the graph as an inactive node, one has to be followed by at least one active node
At the moment there are about 100k active nodes, and 300k reputable nodes.
Thanks for the explanation!
Whatβs the global pagerank?
Cool
42,000 people following Jack (as a proxy to the size of the network) was pretty brutal to see
Obviously not everyone follows Jack, but still brutal
I assumed there was more
pretty brutal yes. There are ~300k reputable pubkeys in total
Thatβs better than the 42,000 that follow Jack
Are you able to see monthly active users?
Basically a filter of 300,000 reputable keys that posted in the last 30 days
And is it only Kind 1 notes or any Kind?
How many active (weekly)?