I’ve known Fiatjaf for over 10 years, way longer than most people here, so I’ve seen both the good and the not-so-good sides. He’s definitely made some big contributions early on—especially in the first couple of years when everyone was working together—but recently, I’ve noticed a shift in how he operates. From my point of view, it seems like he’s leaning more toward things like censorship, centralization, and not prioritizing privacy as much, which is a bit worrying considering the core values of this space.

This isn’t meant to take away from everything he’s done or who he is—it’s just something I’ve noticed. I’d honestly love to see him get back to the principles that made his early work so important.

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Who defines what the core values of a space are? When was #nostr invented? There is bound to be various definitions.

Also: if I’d known someone for 10 years & had the capability to message them personally: I’d do that. Putting it online especially in the way you worded it seems … off somehow.

Yeah but like there are pedos posting cp… check some of the replies to fiatjafs post there… Not good stuff…

Nostr has got to start censoring some stuff either at app level or relay level because if nostr becomes associated with cp then it could all get shut down…

Like either we deal with this problem or the state does after we allow it to grow…

I support spreading the truth without censorship (like wikileaks). I do not support cp, and I’d like that to be removed from this network.

We need to be more clear about the objectives we want from this platform.

That's now what he's saying and not what the suggestion implies.

He is specifically talking about relays that are both big and public (which I assume he means free of charge to write).

The eventual centralization of the network (as in: most people all use a few big relays) is a phaenomenon that can happen regardless.

It also make sense in order to spread nostr that new users are not hit with a ton of bad content the day they start, or they simply leave immediately.

It is just a marketing idea.

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Isn't he just stating a fact of life?

The network cannot survive if every realy saves everything forever. We would drown in spam and impossible bandwidth/storage costs.

for the children again! pedos, dragQ's, all of it seems artificially pushed to me. i know some Q's and the rest & not one of them are pedo. Fear will be employed!

straight male not afraid

I might be totally mistaken here, but I believe that the lack of clear economic incentives for Nostr relay operators can be a positive factor.

As hobbysts primarily focused on supporting the Nostr network, they will take no risk by hosting illegal content. On the other hand, they will still gladly store controversial, offensive, outrageous, ... material.

To detect and remove illegal content (which can vary depending on local laws), they could employ AI tools. By fine-tuning these tools to be highly sensitive, they could ensure that all potentially illegal content is removed.

While this approach might lead to the removal of some legitimate content, the relay owners can find comfort in knowing that the decentralized nature of Nostr ensures that this content is likely still accessible on other relays. The network's redundancy helps to minimize the impact of individual relay errors, providing a safety net for content availability.

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