more lies.
they say nothing about "withdrawn from the swap service"
they simply say they observed BTC be sent to the swap service,
and then seconds or minutes later Monero arrived at the suspects CEX account.
that isnt "tracing monero" at all.
and it sure as hell isnt how they "found the admin of Incognito Market by tracing his monero"
as you claim in your bullshit site
> they say nothing about "withdrawn from the swap service"
They imply it. Especially this one:
The swap service only gave him 176.07 XMR but he sent 180 XMR to the CEX account. This implies that it wasn't sent directly from the swap service, because they aren't going to provide an extra 4 XMR. Therefore he withdrew from the CEX first to a wallet with extra funds, then sent the swapped funds plus a bit extra to his CEX account.
> and it sure as hell isnt how they "found the admin of Incognito Market by tracing his monero"
They literally (1) outline how they traced his monero (2) to an exchange with his KYC data
They needed his KYC data to pin this on him
Cry harder
THEY dont say they traced his monero *at all*
only YOU are saying that
all THEY say is he sent Bitcoin
and Monero arrived on the CEX
you dirty liar.
you cant point to a single source in this doc where they show any "tracing"
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So I expect you'll show some intellectual honesty and revise your webpage to NOT state
"they found the admin of Incognito Market by tracing his monero"
since nowhere is there any suggestion they ever "traced monero" or discovered his identity in that manner.
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I dont know anything about monero really but what was the nexus between admin. wallet 1 and crypto account 1 to tie them together?
it was a centralized swapping service
Im not asking about the swap _to_ admin wallet 1, im asking about the transfer of the 180 received by crypto account 1, how can they know it came from admin wallet 1?
they had already identified Bitcoin wallets associated with the DNM
ie "adminwallet1"
also I'm reading "from admin wallet 1"
but you said "to admin wallet 1"
the DNM admin wallet is sending Bitcoin to the swap service
and the moron is having the swapped couns sent to his CEX account
or as STN *guesses* (since theres a 4 xmr descrepency)
having the XMR swap sent to his own wallet and then IMMEDIATELY sending it to the CEX
but how do they know the CEX account received from admin 1, is it just a timing assumption?
as far as they say here it is just a timing assumption
and amount correlation
since the amount of Bitcoin going into the swap is almost exactly the relative amount of monero that hits the CEX
This is what im trying to get at. That's spurious as fuck.
well
I'm not a lawyer so I'll defer to your expertise
but if you can show 5 different times coins move from an address to a know swap address
and moments later an equivalent amount of monero comes to the exchange.
as a jury member I'd believe it wasn't circumstantial 🤷
If it were the exact same amount that'd be one thing, but also juries are stupid but also many judges are also stupid, but timing is bad evidence.
oh but this isn't trial evidence
this doc is just the FBI trying to get a arrest warrant,
so I expect that changes their perceived burden of evidence?
I dont know specifics about criminal burden of proof but perhaps its enough probable cause for a warrant. At the end of the day, I'd want to show 1,000 other transactions happening at the same time in the approximately same amount. I'd probably have to subpoena the CEX for all monero transactions incoming and outgoing around that same time period and be like "see" why not imprison all of these people.
apparently the FBI felt like it was convincing...
STN also seems to feel that way.
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