One year ago, I was a frequent consumer of American right-wing alternative media, like Dave Rubin, Jordan Peterson, Steven Crowder, Tucker Carlson. I mostly agreed with most of the issues they were talking about. I was concerned about woke cancel culture and the loss of free speech. I also listened to Alan Dershowitz (life-long democrat), Redacted News, Kim Iversen, Glenn Greenwald, Matt Taibbi, Viva Frei and some other non-right-wing sources.

After Al-Aqsa flood on Oct 7 where Hamas successfully executed a well planned military operation in Israel, where I saw a deeply long-term and continually oppressed people finally get a modicum of revenge on the people oppressing them and also strategically capture some hostages (Israel had about 3000 Palestinian hostages at the time, so tit-for-tat) --- because I knew the context well before the event happened --- they (the American right) instead saw horrible terrorist sub-human violent people out-of-the-blue raping, incinerating and cutting heads off of babies (which I couldn't believe, so I watched many hours of videos to see what actually happened, and that was propaganda - the vast majority killed were military).

Anyhow, I couldn't stomach listening to Dave Rubin, Jordan Peterson (who tweeted "Glass Gaza"), Steven Crowder or Alan Dershowitz after that (and many others) despite believing that we should try to listen to all sides, I just couldn't stomach it. And I'm consuming less social media video content overall which is a good thing. I still listen to Tucker Carlson who I haven't heard push the Zionist stuff.

But I guess I'm moving towards the left on more than just the Israel issue (or maybe I'm standing still and they are moving). What I thought I knew about immigration and culture clash I don't think I believe anymore. And this video shifted my thinking more substantially than most videos do. Many of you may disagree with this, but it will get you thinking nonetheless: https://rumble.com/v5bbf0t-uk-headed-for-civil-war-whos-behind-it-all-redacted-w-natali-and-clayton-mo.html

Historically I've felt like I was on Tommy Robinson's side, because I was on the side of free speech. But the situation is more complicated than just one political issue.

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The labels "left" and "right" have left people like us politically homeless.

There are many issues that my friend who are traditional leftists and friends who are far right agree on.

Thee are also right wingers who disagree on many issues and lefties who disagree too.

When someone talks to me in terms of those labels I immediately dismiss them now.

If their political thinking is Pepsi and Coke I don't want to waste time talking to them.

"Us vs them" mentality.

"Competition may be the way of capitalism, but cooperation is the way of civilization."

💯. the two omniparties seem strategically split up in a way to foment us vs them. doesnt seem organic to me.

Yeah, the political labels are package deals that just don't suit.

Fistractions are powerfull, remimber this "all wars are ... Wars"

A war means 2 armies fighting each other. Mass murdering women and children is something else. The word for that is genocide or war crime....followed by death incarceration or death penalty. It won't be any different this time around. ;-)

It's all because of the money printer you fund when you hold USD, my point is cut their funding buy #Bitcoin then it ends quick

Let me just add because I hate to be misunderstood: The Hamas militants that paraglided into the nova rave and rounded up and killed many of those kids... I think that was a mass murder of innocent people (and also by IDF attack helicopters killing everybody in sight was also mass murder). I didn't see that as legit at all, either side, and those Hamas militants did Palestine a huge disservice and deserve the death penalty. And if anybody was raped, they do deserve the death penalty (although there didn't seem to be evidence that it happened). Of course it goes without saying that G'Vir, Gallant and Netanyahu deserve the death penalty.

I'm against the death penalty in practice though because I don't trust governments to correctly administer justice.

You have not moved left. You have woken up to the reality that the left v right war in our media is a game they play to keep us distracted and confused.

You are right and I should really stop trying to map ideas onto silly labels.

there is truth, and there is fiction. We have choices, then we have consequences. There are causes and effects. history doesn't judge, it just records.

Yes, agreed. It’s more complicated than sides. I think it’s about hierarchies and established order. Jordan Peterson has a point there (mainly there). We don’t live and work in the same town anymore. We’re all not well integrated vertically (yet?) in the global interaction hierarchy.

We communicate fast, we travel fast, leaving out our proximal neighbors, crossing all geographic and cultural borders.

In software terms:

We’re happy with the low coupling, but we miss high cohesion.

Nick Fuentes gets you

Thank you for sharing this insightful video. I’m grateful that you introduced me to David Miller and his work🫂💜. Don’t over analyse your political color. It’s irrelevant IMO. Have a great Sunday!

This was ultimately the point. "Tower of Babel". We no longer understand one another. What we thought was out is now being described as in. What was up for decades is now down and if you don't believe it you're condoning hate.

What was good is now bad. What was repulsive is now embraced. We've coined terms like "minor attracted" to normalize the unthinkable.

It has never been more important to look inward and stand firmly with the morels and ethics that have always been a part of us. Propaganda and indoctrination has worked it's way into our psyche. It is meant to confuse and bewilder but it cannot MAKE us follow.

Don't be afraid to stand alone for what you know is right. Find others who will reinforce that sentiment with truth, integrity and sanity.

It's a battle for our very souls

We are going to win 🙏

🫂

Good to hear you reflecting on your opinions, keep it up, this is important work.

maybe you're a libertarian

Oh yes. I've used that label since I was a child... me and my brother expressing property rights, dividing up the bedroom with lincoln logs "this is my half, that is your half, 10c fine for going onto my half"

Listen to the NoAgenda podcast, pretty unbiased, a bit silly, but pretty fair views on things.

I used to ba a socialist and after reading Milton Friedman, Hayek, and more importantly Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged, after going down tge BTC rabbit hole and discovering in it the principles of Austrian economics, I understand socialism is a dead end that we should avoid at all costs. The issue of Israel is a seperate issue to me, it should be independant from our politics, it's being forced down our throats.

Those are good authors. I got deep into Friedman/Hayek/Mises in college. Have quite a few of those books on my bookshelf.

anarcho-capitalism

I’m not quite there yet, but what I notice sometimes is that Joe Rogan and the gang sometimes have the same dogmatic tendencies as the liberal left.

I listened to the Quomo vs Dave Smith debate and was really disappointed by firstly, the audience booing Quomo and secondly, Dave not making strong points and not wanting to listen to Quomo. He seemed to be after soundbites, but nothing more.

The left aren't the only one's who are anti-zionist.

I was also into right wing stuff and Libertarism made me see the sides of Palestinians better. It was their private property till 1948 (actually 92% of it, 8% not) and whoever takes it by stealing is a robber.

Now I'm also mostly right, but left for Israel Palestine, and see all those "free market" people with more caution

Watch James O Brien from LBC. He's amazing!

An interview of him with Nigel Farage, also responsible for the attack you mentioned in UK:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-pyYoL9ngtE