Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but under Amethyst’s current approach to censorship, the #[0] team could collude together to censor anyone we want if they happen to follow our main account and at least 4 of our team members. If #[1] can’t see the problem with that, then that raises even more questions. It is crucial to call this out as a terrible feature and for users to be in control of what information they can and can’t see.
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it's absolutely a problem and needs addressed. if a system can be gamed. it will be. hence Spamisol.
that said, your reputation would be on the like to do nefarious acts like this. since reports are public, if you did this, once found out, your reputation would be tarnished and you wouldn't be able to recover.
💯 I’m not suggesting it be done, and our team would hang me even if I suggested it 🤣 But it’s not hard to imagine this being abused. Am I correct in understanding that reports from users on any client factor into this mechanism on Amethyst?
right. we can take your team out of the mix and say what if you and i secretly spent the last month building fake accounts i.e. you know who, and then used these fake accounts to report people. it's way too easy to game followers and reports. and yes, it's any report on the protocol.
Right, lots of nice friendly new accounts showing up learning how to use Nostr (wink wink). It seems so obvious that this level of debate on Nostr over is almost unbelievable.
This would be easy to do with alts though and could be automated. Grab the top Users from Snort and/or nostr.directory for follows and quickly the Amethyst feed would look non-existent.
If a bounty is necessary to make that feature optional, I am willing to contribute. I sincerely believe this is a problem, and I am absolutely certain it will be abused.
By the way, when you report someone, you unintentionally censor that person for all your followers on Amethyst.
You don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand that this is a problem. Recognizing this problem will be a great first step.
So it doesn’t matter which client the report was submitted through, if I’m understanding that correctly? I saw some mention of that in another thread but I wasn’t clear on that. And yes, it is quite easy to see how this will be gamed by bad actors and trolls. Needs to be fixed so at a minimum Amethyst users who don’t want it can turn it off without having to switch to an entirely different client.
I believe the simplest solution would be to make this feature optional, allowing users to activate it as needed.
I don't think it should be overly complicated. It appears that Vitor may have some philosophical reasons for not implementing it.
I agree that is the most rational and simplest solution here. It puts users in control of their experience. So it begs the question why Vitor refuses to support that option. I don’t know the answer to that.
I would love to test your thesis out. Let's see how many followers they will lose from doing so and who will stay or if it even matters. It's too easy to stay on hypotheticals.
