KEEP NOSTR SIMPLE

VOTE β€œNO” ON THE EDITS REFERENDUM

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yes.

i mean no.

i mean ok.

Nooooo I need to make a case for the edits referendum! It’s just highlights imperfection when I see the error .5 seconds after I made it! πŸ’πŸ½β€β™€οΈπŸ’–

Delayed sending is a thing, it could easily solve a lot of basic errors.

Nostur does this and it’s excellent

I disagree 100%

Edits are saving me all the time on Amethyst and allow me to expand and correct long and important lists that need updating.

As like my lists: Nostr Clients, Portuguese communitie, Open Source Games and others.

Having this feature only on Amethyst always makes it hard for me to make a new post and get the same prominence as the original content.

I said "a lot", not every :)

I understand that edit is an interesting and useful functionality, but it has several drawbacks on Nostr. Amethyst is the only that implement *this* kind of edit because others devs agree that the disadvantages are greater than the advantages. There is another proposal (by nostr:npub1jlrs53pkdfjnts29kveljul2sm0actt6n8dxrrzqcersttvcuv3qdjynqn) that has been discussed and it seems more appropriate.

Btw, long contents (and lists) should probably use the long format, that actually has the edit feature precisely because it is considered important in the writing of an article. Why don't you use it?

Oh nooooooo πŸ’–πŸ’– I was just being silly re: this and now I’m caught in @ replies galore

Totally agree

You still haven't given me a highlighter.com #Nostr address and a custom URL

😐

sounts goot

πŸ˜‚ I’m indifferent. I’m sitting this one out for now. I might change my mind later.

I’ll vote by simply not using them. It’s like voting with your money, but free.

😑😑😑

I am merely communicating. If I cared about typo free messages it would be because I am trying to sell something, usually my labor.

I see no problem with enabling this feature, replaceable all the things with black chains. But it's not important.

I said wat I sed.

nostr:nevent1qqsgwd7hgkyeea4a7hhya8kz9q2h5x53pg94ec5yhd9g54gpzj5k9nqpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsyg86np9a0kajstc8u9h846rmy6320wdepdeydfz8w8cv7kh9sqv02gpsgqqqqqqs59q4cs

Dis not a democracy p

Yeah, but I'm on Amethyst, right now, and seeing edits, and it's disturbing.

Read a note, reply to the note makes no sense, see that the note is edited. 😬

Is there a way to turn it off?

Unfollow teh editoors

They're some of my faves, tho. 😭

I didn't even realize anything was being edited, before.

Back on #Nostrudel. See no evil, here. πŸ˜‚

How to vote?

The question becomes more of … if ppl are debating typos … they’re focused on the medium and not the message.

Let the typos go … nostr platform works as designed. Make another post and link it in a reply to the 1st one … leave it to the display app to choose to find and fix the lead post in the thread.

i can edit notes with amethyst, but i don't do it all that often because it only applies to amethyst at this time. i'd be down to have it everywhere though.

nostr:note1sumaw3vfnnmtma0wf60vy2q40gdfzzsttn3gfw623f2sz99fvtxqw8x8r2

I proposed an edit on this

Crap. I meant to vote β€œno”. Can I change my vote?

I like it... Been also thinking about #onlyzaps again... Didn't get rid of reactions but charge them minimum 1 sat to react

Edits is why I use amethyst

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i like fixing my typos.

I edit my clumsiness way too much and I'm all in for voting "NO" to edits.

My relays won't allow any of this nonsense

Peter Todd should decide as he’s Bitcoin CEO πŸ˜‚

Yes for edits

Edit and delete are great and should be everywhere. If you don't want to support them, you don't have to. But I will continue to hold the opinion that clients with support are superior.

I use edit often, I didn't even know others can't see it lmao

I should probably be more careful

You are making a case for why edits are bad and become de-facto mandatory if they get enough traction.

And nostr only works if it’s simple and the barrier to entry to create something new is low.

So why have anything besides kind 1? Barrier to entry is arbitrary and gets easier with the more development kits evolve.

#Yestr 4-ever Typo's 🫣

Ahhaa NOSTR is so fucking gay. It's a culture of "my democracy" people. Never going to work, with a bunch of Jack Dorsey groupies, suck ups

Wow, great argu… oh wait.

Not a technical argument, but an argument regarding the most important ingredient to ANY startup; the culture.

Which by the way is always lost on engineers.

"Muh democracy!!!, NOSTrR does not have enough black trans coders!"

Here's a preview of NOSTR meeting in the next few years.

https://youtu.be/moWe3rk7LzQ?si=6Nxx8VpimD4FzsVD

Bro, the β€œvote” thing was a joke.

Maybe this can help: /s

My apologies then.

No, edits are great.

Edits complicate the protocol: edits centralize nostr

Edits are just another kind of event.

I occasionally edit my notes if there is a mistake in it although I know most clients don't support the function.

Maybe "you" should think first.

Then correct.

Then send.

Can I edit my vote?

Not on pollerama.fun πŸ˜›

Always vote yes. Don't let the communists tell you what you can or cannot do with your content.

Edit everything if you want. Including the date, time, content, links. EVERYTHING.

if you are not in control of your own content than it's just a communist platform.

It someone wants to keep track of the original content than they can use a scraper to scrape the original content and have a copy of the original note on their servers.

Don't let anyone force you to not have control of your own content.

Your level of misunderstanding is comical.

Bitcoin doesn’t allow me to run Quake in it: Bitcoin is communist.

If not quake, maybe doom?

Who said it doesn't? It's just a little slow. Frame rate is 1 frame per 10 minutes...

What nostr really needs to win is more billionaires with neck beards, and millennials who throw safe space tantrums when they cant edit their spelling mistakes. ✊

Is there a lobbyist group on NOoooooostr now?

There is no referendum.

Edits are nonstandard bullshit and would make Nostr inherently slower and more complex.

I vote for transparent edit, option to display original note.

Where to find more info about that?

What do you mean? Keen to learn more

Voting? What is this, a democracy all of a sudden?

So, the question is, why, in a platform that is pro freedom of speech, some people against edit?

When we edit, the original message is still there and available...

I don't get the issue behind.

Freedom, for me it's letting all possibilities available, and everyone decides if they are going to use it or not. Not allowing is restrictive.

Is like when you make a mistake, you refuse to make things right, because it's simple not to go with the trials of making things right ?

Unless, there is a "code" issue I am not aware, in that case, can I be made aware of it?

The issue is centralization; a protocol is the definition of restrictions, constrains that enable interoperability. All protocols work like this, TCP, ICMP, IMAP and driving on a highway.

The more complex a protocol is the harder it becomes to implement it, thus the harder it becomes to remain interoperable and decentralized.

Genius post. Made me stop and think. You are right.

I tend to lean towards the edit option now that my n key is sometimes not working.

Clients can solve this already just by implementing better previews and optional delayed send.

No changes to kind:1 should be done. The protocol is extensible enough. Just like with #Bitcoin, a separate extension would be ok, there's no need in replacing things, and thus, hard forking and breaking compatibility.