Nostr Web Client

Alice 2y ago

NOSTR DEVELOPERS

You LAZY FAT FUCKS!

Why the fuck haven't you made a Reddit style nostr client yet what the fuck is your problem?

Why are you always sucking desktop users cocks and prioritizing them first what the fuck is your problem?

Reddit users don't want a fucking God damn Twitter clone it's annoying as shit.

With stupid ass fucking hashtags and following people.

The communities you have are crap y'all don't even post shit.

They're just up there taking space and not adding any value I mean come the fuck on dude do you have a soft weiner in your mouth all the time what the hell is the problem?

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Downloadables 2y ago

its like zappitit or something

Alice 2y ago

I know. But it's a PWA not a legit mobile client

BHN 🍁 2y ago

Wait, Redditors dont like it?

KEEP ON TRUCKING DEVS 🤣

Alice 2y ago

Fuck off Blake

7fqx 2y ago

Is it to late crowdfund Alice a ticket to #nostrasia to heckle?

Alice 2y ago

🤣

splinter 2y ago

Fuck I'd pay lol

Alice 2y ago

Lol 🥳

7fqx 2y ago

Do you mean a mobile client dedicated to that style?

I suppose there isn't enough demand for it? Communities are basically like having a Tumblr. Which is quite nice. They could in theory function like subreddits if people decided to use it, client made them more or prominent or the clients who don't even currently have the function, adding it.

But yeah I think I agree. A mobile client that went for the opposite of what they all seem to do now... communities / subreddits as their main format, with the twitter style as secondary would be interesting. Do you think Communities as they are now could do what you want, if they were in a dedicated app?

7fqx 2y ago

I do bang on about it. But that sort of client would also potentially solve the complaint that it's 'all b!tcoin chat' on nostr.

At least a noob will see a whole bunch of unused groups, better than an endless stream of b!tcoin chat lol

StephanGuy 2y ago

there are better ways to solve this

7fqx 2y ago

What do you reckon? I'm just chatting shit lol.. but I am curious what real people are thinking/ doing to solve this. A client that prompted default hidden words of b!tcoin +isms?

StephanGuy 2y ago

we already have word filters for amethyst and relays

when people first join they need a choice of follow lists, we also need seperate lists so we can for example have ones for different types of users, say like me i follow 1200 but only really like 10 or 20 and would prefer them on another list

we could then also have seperate lists for moderation, say a list of users that only report spam, or users that report bitcoin etc(report is the wrong word btw hide or flag is better)

communities like subreddits should be the topic ie a #tag and a chosen group of moderators, then everyone can use the same topic #tag but have their own moderation

i like these ideas but think groups of users that moderate together entire platforms or topics will ultimately become the new sudo communities, where they enforce a similar curation because they share the same desires

people will be able to switch between these user lists and algos(sorry forgot that) and see which they prefer, likely day to day they may change preference

i think many will stop being babies about words and only remove spam, but i am biased as thats me now, getting triggered by an arrangement of characters or sounds is absurd, threatening violence for such even more so

Alice 2y ago

Yes I do. And yes a dedicated mobile app. I guess the thing for me is, I don't like to follow 'people '

I just don't fucking like that idea. I can't really think of the words right now. But it just seems so self obsessed do you know what I mean?

That's why I never got into Twitter. Because it's just people following fucking celebrities.

Like I don't care what a celebrity thinks or says that's not interesting to me at all. That's not valuable to me.

I want to follow topics and communities that Garner discussion.

I'm just a random jackass on the internet so is everybody else. And I feel like this whole idea of following people just makes it like a dumb popularity contest where people just say whatever the fuck and it's not interesting or insightful or anything like that.

Don't get me wrong I'm all for random nonsense and talking shit.

It just makes me think like I'm sitting on a bus waiting to get to my destination and some guy behind me Whispers in my ear out of nowhere:

"I've always preferred Linux to Ubuntu. But after I installed Ubuntu on my old college laptop, I think I'm gunna switch permanently "

Like? Really?

Are you fucking crazy? Did you just get out of the mental hospital today? Why the fuck are you talking to me? Who the fuck are you what is going on right now why are people just shouting out random thoughts.?

It's fucking annoying.

I know hashtags help a bit but uhhh rant over

7fqx 2y ago

Yes, I can totally see this. And pnmich agree.

Reddit/forum format on topics is a different feel to following people twitter style, and it does somewhat get around the parasocial problem.

It's something the satellite .earth dev also mentioned, which is promising.

Alice 2y ago

What do you think about nostr kiwi

7fqx 2y ago

I used it a while ago, but it stopped loading for me for some reason and I haven't bothered doing a hard refresh on it. Was a bit clunky, but it was a bit ago, so not sure that's a fair comment. I'll check it out again maybe? Should I?

Alice 2y ago

Yea I don't see why not

7fqx 2y ago

Just had a quick look now and seems to be working. I find it a bit confusing, videos and images are insanely large on posts, doesn't even show the communities I'm a member of, looks like they don't exist lol. No idea why ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯ Maybe the dev hates me 😭😭

7fqx 2y ago

I like the idea tho. It actually doesn't show the Feed at all right? It only shows posts made within communities? If I'm seeing this right? But is too much of a mess for me to actually use.

#Nostrudel is my current go to/fave.

It could be an idea for it to have an option of making the Feed a community post / hashtag follow feed only. Perhaps that would make it insanely quiet(?)

Alice 2y ago

Yes that's a good idea

Alice 2y ago

Oh my fucking God 😓

Dissident Sound 2y ago

yeah frankly there is not much reason to follow anybody except me.

other people can't really say anything of value.

SMS 2y ago

Gringos ALL going?l cards?

https://news.google.com/stories/CAAqNggKIjBDQklTSGpvSmMzUnZjbmt0TXpZd1NoRUtEd2k4ck9fQUNSSE0yU1pzVl9wQkp5Z0FQAQ?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

SMS 2y ago

Keep it up.

Fandom killing spree’s are great

SMS 2y ago

But how a gringo claim?

🌹

SMS 2y ago

You are him.

StephanGuy 2y ago

nostr devs are cucks

no one posts in 'communities' because they are approval only, look how masterofcucks freaked out when someone dropped a jew or 2

7fqx 2y ago

The approval thing is annoying, I even have to approve my own posts on communities I've made lol. And only one client seems to let you do that. I can see why you would want approval to stop spambots starting a million threads tbf

StephanGuy 2y ago

its incredibly poorly thought out, approval will work but it needs to be applied in the same distributed way as reports

ie you pick a topic the #tag and then a list of users that approve posts in it

approval being better is a whitelist vs blacklist debate, i currently use my follow list a lot so am liking whitelists but know their pitfalls getting new people in, i have a limited attention so also can only deal with so much

if you want to refine your lists you will need to be adding and removing people, web of trust helps but sometimes you just need to go fishing in global and without some blacklists good luck lol, spam is fucking real

7fqx 2y ago

Global is ridiculous. I currently have the global feed set to the welcome wine relay, which only shows posts made from new accounts, I think it's up to a week old. Which is obviously not great for finding people with older accounts who may be interesting. And even then it's full of spam

StephanGuy 2y ago

global is fine for me and i use 30 relays, amethyst filters spam well with a large follow list

StephanGuy 2y ago

there is a basic theory to nostr, reason it is successful, a first principles

distributed and filters

if it follows that in all aspects it succeeds

7fqx 2y ago

Ah, Ive switched off amethyst filtering. Cos I think it uses reports from people you follow to hide those people from you. Not sure if this 'adopted blocklist' is still a thing, but it definitely used to be.

StephanGuy 2y ago

it still filters spam with filtering turned off.. the mysteries of amethysts coding, i should read it more

7fqx 2y ago

Ah I see. Yep, I have no idea tbh

7fqx 2y ago

Out of curiosity, how often are you looking at global?

StephanGuy 2y ago

used to use it solely, usually a few times a day if not more

7fqx 2y ago

Relay is welcome.nostr.wine

+ Setting global to only showing you from that relay. Just FYI.

Although maybe you don't want to do that ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

StephanGuy 2y ago

relying on one relay like that is not nostr

7fqx 2y ago

I have more relays but they are muted for global except for that one, I only at global about once every month. I'm pretty much wanting a v similar reddit-style or community feed as mentioned in this thread

So even my Following feed / twitter style isnt really what I'm after, never mind global

Alice 2y ago

Dam! Which client do you use?

StephanGuy 2y ago

most dont filter spam well, i think he uses https://nostrudel.ninja