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Most of these features are to do with privileged features in Google Play Store (Play Protect) and not Android itself. Means nothing to GrapheneOS:
https://security.googleblog.com/2024/05/io-2024-whats-new-in-android-security.html?m=1
The "live threat detection" is just trivial antimalware scanning based on heuristics for known malicious behaviours of installed apps, such as asking for accessibility services or device admins and other unnecessary permissions. Google calling it "AI powered" is it at best disingenuous. People falling into scares for it would also be the same people falling for such corporatespeak.
The "unsafe connection detection" appears to be about the feature of detecting fake cellular base stations or when their cellular network connection is unencrypted. This is a good feature, but ideally you wouldn't want to be using the cell network at all.
The "side loading restrictions" are already a thing since Android 13. What this means is apps installed in certain ways (like directly from an APK) are considered unsafe installs and are automatically blocked from accessing certain dangerous permissions. Currently apps through modern app stores don't have this and if you downloaded it anyway you have to go through a semi-hidden dialog to activate their access.
A future Android update is adding enhancements the feature to provide a whitelist of sources where only apps from said sources can have such permissions without the ability to allow any from outside. This is enforced by an XML file in the system partition and so GrapheneOS would just change or not use it.
App devs should never use such permissions unless they are absolutely necessary if they care about user freedom because they are an attack surface risk and can be very dangerous. Accessibility services allow an app to make inputs on your behalf. This is also why Auditor detects when there is one in use and you can see in audit results.
Coming through with the juice as usual. Thanks!
Made an edit to the post a little as I think a typo made it not make sense. I should clarify the enhancement for the restricted apps setting is to replace allowing restricted settings for ANY app store with only allowing a list of allowed app stores.
It doesn't block using an app with those permissions though, and you can still use the previous dialog to enable restricted settings at your own heavy risk. When an app store is trusted apps installed on there just won't have the restricted setting blocker during first use.
100% fud from someone who has no clue, i will bet sats he is iOS user.
i assumed so when i saw a forbes link.. but, now im curious.
Cope harder. I use iOS and Android.
If you use iOS why do you have Freedom, Privacy, Ethics on your bio? Apple is the oposite of those things, it's a fact (and you know it). To be honest, stock Android is just as bad.
You understand there are levels of privacy. You could also ask why am I on Nostr is I care about privacy. Or why do I ever go outside if I care about privacy. You don’t know how I use my iPhone and how I keep private. Using Graphene doesn’t make you private when you don’t act privately on the device.
Stock Android is just as bad yes. But Graphene isnt perfect. Degoogle term is a lie. You cant degoogle literal google hardware lol. Pixel phones are made from a company that goes against freedom, privacy and ethics too.
Yup, GrapheneOS on Google Pixel phones has seemed like a temporary strategy that has turned into a permanant one, but ultimately the hardware _also_ needs to be degoogled.
Pine64 and Librem and the two hardware options that seem to be on the right path there, however there is quite a bit of work yet in getting mobile GNU/Linux mobile ready, it's much closer though.
Have you ever used iOS?
Why would i use a closed-source OS from a woke bigtech that spies on me and gatekeeps what i can install on my own device?
Same reason many do. There are some things an iPhone can do that others can’t. Some can afford to have an iPhone despite the cost even just to use once a month for a certain task. People have multiple phone just like multiple computers or cars. You know I use Graphene OS too right?
Give me an example of something an iPhone can do that any Android can't. The cost is not the issue here, my Pixel 9 Pro Fold cost me $2100+. I do have multiple phones too, all running GrapheneOS, obviously.
There are many but I will name the most obvious. iMessage. Android cant help you there.
So you are using iOS (giving away your freedoms and privacy) because iMessages (spyware communication)?
Apple users NGMI.
Why are you thinking these examples are all me. Im giving you basic examples because you can’t figure it out. Im NOT saying this is how I use MY devices.
You need to understand people are even given iphone for work phones. Stop pretending like all your personal things have to be used with the least private phone. Are you stupid or something?
No, this guy is just hard headed, he doesn't realize that there's use cases for other technologies, even ones he disagrees with/doesn't use.
Even if I agree that android is better than Apple, I do, I don't think Android is some miracle in comparison to Apple.
They both have trade-offs, and I'm willing to take the android trade-offs over Apple's, that being said I do use both as well.
Right. I also prefer Android. GrapheneOS is great too. I use them all. I love third party app stores on Android. I won’t touch the PlayStore. If I need a normie app I trust the AppStore a bit more.
Wish I could zap you. You need a lightning address friend. 🤙
I might implement one next week possibly with a ₿0.002 (200,000 Sats) ($200) channel when my Fiat to Sats transfer clears on Strike.
I am doing it after I found out you don't need ridiculous collateral to start as I had originally thought.
I will explore with Zeus as soon as possible.
what a dumb example. it's like complaining that BMW cannot help you have a Mercedes
imessages is proprietary software
Instead of asking those glowies for advice like they'll give you honest answers, you should ask me for advice and ask those glowies what they were talking about here nostr:note1c7004vecmtmqwkh3qw9x2kmugf8lqy66xldpsqmehdfyexehcyzs8xr8c4