Wanting to get in shape for our holiday to Italy, my wife saw a dietitian to help her manage her PCOS and lose weight. The dietitian recommended she eat more animal protein and healthy fat like butter and avocado, and really cut down on carbohydrates and seed oil. She followed the diet pretty closely but put on 3 kg in a month.

I pity the dietitian when she goes for her review tomorrow. I'm not sure what went wrong. Does anyone have any advice or resources?

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I want the dietitian to be right, because I have been enjoying eating lots of steak and eggs and felt quite vindicated by the nutritionists advice. At this point my wife is likely to turn vegan

#foodstr #meat #eggs #vegan

Maybe won’t be popular here but as a previous gym manager very much interested in nutrition I’d say less animal protein, unless very lean, no high saturated fat (that’s butter) more vegan sources, be careful how it’s cooked and stick to a recommended portion size eg palm size amount of lean protein per meal plus cup size low sugar, high fibre carbs and the rest fruit/veg, low sugar. And plenty of working out!

Half cup size I mean

Maybe not no high saturated fat as not really sustainable but just much less just like I’m being less interested in acknowledging certain things and more just doing my own

Not really enough info the make an educated guess on, but I've seen this sort of thing in others- I've lost a lost of weight, but many friends and family members supposedly tried things similar to what I have done and have gone nowhere.

I suspect a few things- eating too frequently. I settled into eating around twice a day. Basically, I could just eat meat for a few days, eventually the cravings die down, and then it's like a game: am I hungry yet? How long can I go with out food here?

If you think you have to have breakfast- or worse, like my brother, decide to eat small meals 5 or 6 times a day- when does your body have time to burn what you've got around your waist?

Additionally, these foods often do have more calories than the foods we are replacing them with. Carbs are like 4 per gram, whereas Fat is 9 per gram. The expectation is that the satiation will be so high that you'll actually eat less. This does happens, but it can be defeated easily- so much so that I do not think nuts are a good diet food. Way too easy to overeat them. Also there was this trend to add fats to meals that really didn't need them- again probably a bad idea.

And then there's this whole issue of cheating. We are all going to cheat sometime. I would generally treat myself to ice cream or something after seeing the number on the scale going doing. This was somewhere between once or twice a week. I didn't know at the time, but have since seen some information that suggests this could reset some of the metabolic pathways, so that continued fat loss is possible.

Many more arcane points I could include here- like buy the expensive ice cream with ingredients your great-grandparents would recognize as actually belonging in ice cream- but this is kind of just a shot in the dark here anyway and probably too long for iris.

She is the type of person who will follow instructions to the nth degree, then when it gets too hard, fail completely. Resetting the metabolic pathways probably definitely occurred 🤣

Yeah, but if she's getting so hungry that she fails, then in a sense, the rules failed. I lost the weight and kept it off because I was hungry less often, and could make better choices even when I broke the rules. A chunk of brisket meant I could go several hours without eating. Some strange person might find rice keeps them full for hours- in which case I'd abandon my low carb jihadism and tell them to stick with the rice (though add nutritionally dense stuff like oysters, liver, etc...).

It's mostly lack of time/energy to cook and getting takeaway which almost always have high carbs

Rotissiere chicken (read the ingredient label- probably best is Whole Foods right now) and a big slow cooker to cook brisket in. Appetite should drop down in a week or two, and then it will all seem easier. Probably don't want to drink calories, although I often violated this edict with wine. Seems like maybe women can't get away with this as well as I did though.

I have followed the same diet, much less strictly, and lost half a kg.

Fast. Run/walk 5-8 miles a day

Regarding weight, not health, all that matters is calories in calories out. So its a combination of eating animal based to eat healthy not toxic foods, in a caloric deficit.