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Hi Derek. I thought Nostr was supposed to be this thriving community but it seems really quiet. Whatâs going on here. itâs definitely not as fun for me as 2009 TwitterâŚhowever I feel like it should be. What am I doing wrong? Howâd you get engagement. Howâd you meet people? Did I miss âthe waveâ and now itâs a platform on life support for people that arenât public/importing followings?
Nostr comes in waves and engagement is hidden behind proof of work, letting people know that you're here and want to be social by interacting with them, just like you did by commenting on my note. Thank you for doing that!
The initial was was three years ago. It's been pretty stagnant since then, but that is about to change with diVine's upcoming launch.
Thank you. Figured Iâd reach out to you, the CEO đ.I just finished a podcast you were on with CK and enjoyed listening to your story. Iâd heard about it years ago but back then ,(I think) you had to set up a âĄď¸ node and a bunch of other things i wasnât willing to do just for what I thought was âsocial mediaâ.At least that was my perception. Anyway, thanks for the reply Derek.
There should be a general discovery feed
Hmm. Does welcome.nostr.wine still exist. We used to add this as the only global relay and then browse global, as just one relay, and find new users.
I donât think so. It gave me an error. Unless I typed it wrong. Twitter slaps you in the face (too much), but nostr should give a gentle slap
Just keep posting.
I've found that interaction here mostly happens around a few major topics and not much else. Bitcoin topics, Nostr topics, and a few other niches that almost always tie back into Bitcoin and Nostr somehow. I can't recall ever interacting with anyone here who has had zero involvement with those topics. I have opinions, but I'm not putting judgment on this here. It's just an observation I've made after being here almost daily over several years.
I think there are also UX issues that makes Nostr less accessible to people who aren't already used to adopting novel tech (like Bitcoiners and Nostr developers). My observation, if true, makes total sense. But it also makes Nostr feel like a quiet monoculture.
Anyone who doesn't care very deeply about monetary issues or Nostr development will probably be bored here. And it isn't as simple as just spinning up an npub and posting other stuff until we attract people who are deeply interested in that other stuff. I hope nostr:nprofile1qqsr7acdvhf6we9fch94qwhpy0nza36e3tgrtkpku25ppuu80f69kfqppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qyghwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnhd9hx2tcpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtcmuvweu is right and I think most of us here do. It isn't like we're intentionally being exclusive. It's just natural since we all align so well on some base topics. But it's hard to outgrow as well.
As far as novel tech adoption is concerned, Iâd say Iâm a person that will try things toward the middle of the âearly adoptersâ phase. I am really interested in money, what it is and what it isnât. I often give 1 on 1âs about it but I donât usually mention bitcoin I us an old silver dollar. Thatâs hard enough for most people to wrap their heads around. âHow much is that (silver dollar) worth?â âOne dollar, but youâre not using dollars youâre using federal reserve notesâ Then I bring out my silver certificates and try to get them to understand from there. The silver dollar is still the silver dollar but if they wanted one theyâd need $50+ Federal notes⌠pic tangentially related
Well itâs a good thing that Iâm hyperfocused on âż at the moment and in a bit of a transition. Despite being in it since like 2013 (and never ever being a shitcoiner) Iâm only just now beginning to âgetâ what it really is. When I first heard about it in 2011, people told me I could âsend money over the internetâ and I was like âI can do that with paypal right now, I donât need bitcoinâ it took 13 years and getting debanked to learn that I actually did need bitcoin. I wish Iâd aped in sooner.
Sure, but that doesn't change my point. I can imagine Nostr seems like a big circle jerking cult to a normie. I can understand WHY Nostr probably isn't attracting people in my culture (people who don't yet need it as much as they will). I can't speak for others and this is an anecdote that could be totally wrong. There's also what I call 'technical-value misalignment.' For example, follow count. Follow count is prized on all of the major legacy networks, even if people are aware of bots forming those numbers. Some people even pay for them to pump the numbers because it's so valuable. Yet on Nostr, it's hard to even get an accurate count of anything. It's so novel (and bigger than social media) that people struggle to get it. I think the only way past that is some mainstream use case that don't drown people in Bitcoin and Nostr related content, as much as I love both.
You have to mine to find blocks
You have to engage, there is no algorithm shoving stuff in your face. Follow people, post more than two notes, add more relays, reply to notes you like, and follow hashtags that interest you. We are here, but if you donât speak up, we donât see you.
Hi. Iâm quite new as well to nostr and youâre right it is different from the Twitter explosion back in 2009. weâre almost two decades into social media of web2.0. People are comfortably trapped and donât care much to try new - thatâs not a bug but a great feature.
You, I and people playing with nostr are the explorers and early adopters. Iâm paying attention to whoâs who, who says what and when I notice value I follow and engage.
This is the way. It's better to build connections yourself instead of being spoonfed content from rage algos.
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