Hi Derek. I thought Nostr was supposed to be this thriving community but it seems really quiet. Whatās going on here. itās definitely not as fun for me as 2009 Twitterā¦however I feel like it should be. What am I doing wrong? Howād you get engagement. Howād you meet people? Did I miss āthe waveā and now itās a platform on life support for people that arenāt public/importing followings?
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Nostr comes in waves and engagement is hidden behind proof of work, letting people know that you're here and want to be social by interacting with them, just like you did by commenting on my note. Thank you for doing that!
The initial was was three years ago. It's been pretty stagnant since then, but that is about to change with diVine's upcoming launch.
Thank you. Figured Iād reach out to you, the CEO š.I just finished a podcast you were on with CK and enjoyed listening to your story. Iād heard about it years ago but back then ,(I think) you had to set up a ā”ļø node and a bunch of other things i wasnāt willing to do just for what I thought was āsocial mediaā.At least that was my perception. Anyway, thanks for the reply Derek.
There should be a general discovery feed
Hmm. Does welcome.nostr.wine still exist. We used to add this as the only global relay and then browse global, as just one relay, and find new users.
I donāt think so. It gave me an error. Unless I typed it wrong. Twitter slaps you in the face (too much), but nostr should give a gentle slap
Just keep posting.
I've found that interaction here mostly happens around a few major topics and not much else. Bitcoin topics, Nostr topics, and a few other niches that almost always tie back into Bitcoin and Nostr somehow. I can't recall ever interacting with anyone here who has had zero involvement with those topics. I have opinions, but I'm not putting judgment on this here. It's just an observation I've made after being here almost daily over several years.
I think there are also UX issues that makes Nostr less accessible to people who aren't already used to adopting novel tech (like Bitcoiners and Nostr developers). My observation, if true, makes total sense. But it also makes Nostr feel like a quiet monoculture.
Anyone who doesn't care very deeply about monetary issues or Nostr development will probably be bored here. And it isn't as simple as just spinning up an npub and posting other stuff until we attract people who are deeply interested in that other stuff. I hope nostr:nprofile1qqsr7acdvhf6we9fch94qwhpy0nza36e3tgrtkpku25ppuu80f69kfqppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qyghwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnhd9hx2tcpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtcmuvweu is right and I think most of us here do. It isn't like we're intentionally being exclusive. It's just natural since we all align so well on some base topics. But it's hard to outgrow as well.
As far as novel tech adoption is concerned, Iād say Iām a person that will try things toward the middle of the āearly adoptersā phase. I am really interested in money, what it is and what it isnāt. I often give 1 on 1ās about it but I donāt usually mention bitcoin I us an old silver dollar. Thatās hard enough for most people to wrap their heads around. āHow much is that (silver dollar) worth?ā āOne dollar, but youāre not using dollars youāre using federal reserve notesā Then I bring out my silver certificates and try to get them to understand from there. The silver dollar is still the silver dollar but if they wanted one theyād need $50+ Federal notesā¦ pic tangentially related
Well itās a good thing that Iām hyperfocused on āæ at the moment and in a bit of a transition. Despite being in it since like 2013 (and never ever being a shitcoiner) Iām only just now beginning to āgetā what it really is. When I first heard about it in 2011, people told me I could āsend money over the internetā and I was like āI can do that with paypal right now, I donāt need bitcoinā it took 13 years and getting debanked to learn that I actually did need bitcoin. I wish Iād aped in sooner.
Sure, but that doesn't change my point. I can imagine Nostr seems like a big circle jerking cult to a normie. I can understand WHY Nostr probably isn't attracting people in my culture (people who don't yet need it as much as they will). I can't speak for others and this is an anecdote that could be totally wrong. There's also what I call 'technical-value misalignment.' For example, follow count. Follow count is prized on all of the major legacy networks, even if people are aware of bots forming those numbers. Some people even pay for them to pump the numbers because it's so valuable. Yet on Nostr, it's hard to even get an accurate count of anything. It's so novel (and bigger than social media) that people struggle to get it. I think the only way past that is some mainstream use case that don't drown people in Bitcoin and Nostr related content, as much as I love both.
You have to engage, there is no algorithm shoving stuff in your face. Follow people, post more than two notes, add more relays, reply to notes you like, and follow hashtags that interest you. We are here, but if you donāt speak up, we donāt see you.
Hi. Iām quite new as well to nostr and youāre right it is different from the Twitter explosion back in 2009. weāre almost two decades into social media of web2.0. People are comfortably trapped and donāt care much to try new - thatās not a bug but a great feature.
You, I and people playing with nostr are the explorers and early adopters. Iām paying attention to whoās who, who says what and when I notice value I follow and engage.
This is the way. It's better to build connections yourself instead of being spoonfed content from rage algos.
Welcome to the villageā¦