Does the concept of destiny have a religious origin?
I’m wondering because people used to commit all sorts or atrocities in the name of god. Destiny could be quite convenient for not owning your actions.
Discussion
I believe in destiny, because I believe in determinism. I don’t see how that can be logically used to commit atrocities, because nobody can claim to know their destiny.
It’s impossible to know the future, so even though it’s set by cause and effect, we must live as though it’s not because we don’t know what’s going to happen.
My destiny is to become emperor therefore my actions of wiping out my opponents are justified.
Example.
Yes, I can see the claim, but there’s no logical justification for why you are destined to be emperor. If the people believe your claim and choose to fight until your become emperor, then it was your destiny. If they turn on you, then it was not your destiny. The only thing you can do is attempt to make the claim and see where it take you.
By using it as a justification to murder, regardless of outcome.
Yes, you could use destiny as a “excuse” for murder, and it’s true that given the conditions your were in when the murder was committed, you couldn’t have done otherwise.
However, that’s doesn’t mean the murder is justified. If you murder beCAUSE someone called you a dork, that’s not justified. The force you exerted did not match the force that was exerted on you.
In this case, you are likely a psychopath, so basically your brain is broken and you are like a rabid dog who must be removed from society.
Per Emergence Theory, all time exists always in the same way that all frames of a movie reel exist always. This also suggests that the ‘you’ that is on your deathbed has just as much effect on ‘you’ as an infant or present day ‘you’ as infant and present day yous have on deathbed you.
this is gonna make my brain itch. thank you 🤙🏼💜
Effect meaning?
Many base their assertions that our reality is a simulation on the evidence that high level physicists and mathematicians have produced in their pursuit of a comprehensive theory of everything.
I’m not exactly sure what to do with this but it seemed relevant to the conversation of destiny and based on my experience, few are aware of Emergence Theory at all so I just figured it was worth sharing.
Thanks, will explore.
man that's deep
The sense is of "that which has been firmly established," as by fate. Especially "what is to befall any person or thing in the future" (mid-15c.). In Greek and Roman mythology, personified as the three Fates or powers supposed to preside over human life.
Ie relinquishing responsibility
I’d agree with that assessment. When people say give it to God, would be the same?
You know I don’t view the concept of destiny as relinquishing responsibility. Especially since your destiny is a mystery to you as it unfolds.
What purpose does it serve if your action or inaction does not affect the outcome?
How you show up in life is the only thing under your control.
Out of curiosity, are you religious?
Nope.
Ty for sharing your point of view.
Whether or not one believes in fate or destiny will be determined by whether or not one believes things are deterministic or random. I happen to believe the former and it sounds like you believe the latter.
Correct 👍
Exactly, always choose that belief that serves you best.
I don’t hold on to any belief dearly. Someone new information and viewpoints present themselves and I’ll consider them.