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yeah, those JWs do tend to hang out in shady places, maybe they do kinda ward off the shadies, i mean, really, they always hang out in shady places at the edges of mostly metro stations in eastern europe

i don't understand them at all, but even though i was raised with SDA and went to many services i'm now finally at a point where i'm like, integrating all of it, ok, SDA is just mainly some kind of jew scam to introduce cornflakes and circumcision and veganism mainly (really, that's really what it was)

the catholics are closer to the source for my money... i'm getting quite excited about learning the procedure of the mass next sunday

all the other shit, man, i been through the whole lot, every kind of new age, creepy cult real estate investment, shitcoin, fucking bitcoin (yes bitcoin) and what else... chaos magic, laveyan satanism, Robert Anton Wilson et al and their variants of gnosticism

i understand now how the catholic formula worked so well

but it's not going to stop me from understanding the real underlying message below all of the stories, the new age, the magick, the traditional myths, all of it, i'm going to make sufficient sense of it to know how i'm going to get through this next 50 years or so

from here, first step is get mobile, because the best location may not be what the models said yesterday, new models may point in a different direction, and almost all of the places it points at have coastlines, and that means being on a boat gets you there

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You would be a good one to ask this question:

What do you think of the Bob Proctor abundance meditation

I'm a bit scared of it tbh. But maybe it's entirely harmless.

red flags on abundance and meditation

focus on stuff that actually heals you and makes you valuable to someone in the short term (by which i mean next 5 years)

maybe you need to learn javascript, maybe you need to learn cloud deployment, or CI/CD devops stuff, maybe you need to drill down on your database skills for writing, idk, graphql queries or heaven forefend, something horrible like building custom key value store indexes

Ok, so meditating isn't going to cut the paycheck. You aren't one of those" 0.1 BTC and you're set" kinda folks :-D how much would it take tho to retire myself into non productivity?

I'm Looking up ci/CD, graphQL and custom key value store indexes.

I dislike JavaScript, is python still a good skill?

what would replace Oracle and Pl/SQL in some decentralized future

idk, but if you are a database programmer you probably could make a lot of money writing smart contracts, because that's all they are, database scripts

I thought smart contracts were a nothing burger. ? As many times we find bugs in database procedures, I can't imagine having them just ossified in block somewhere

yep, that's the one! they can be upgraded though

but seriously, your skills will be most directly applicable to that, as regards to "what is the most lucrative way i can deploy my current skills?"

i can't stand that shit, it makes my nerves jangle that people don't understand that it's like, less than embedded computing, doesn't even have the fun feature of cool stuff like rendering graphics or doing realtime network chatter or anything, it's like, gah, this stuff

but really, if db scripts are your thing, you can make bank writing smart contracts, i work with a vietnamese dude who is doing Move SCs and he built a javascript based interface to the SCs that runs a simple data store that replicates the blockchain data

and he is puzzled why my job is writing a Go server to replicate his data, but i've been trying to explain "this is (N-1)N complexity to compare all the records in the database" and i think they are starting to understand why i don't give a fuck about their stupid low powered database scripting engines and shitty interpreted languages

Move SCs...giving me a lot to look thru and learn about. Thank you.

Just a basic question is, my understanding was that Bitcoin was designed to be non turing complete in order to limit the error possibilities. So this Move SC is quite potentially going to seriously mess up at some point. At which point the parties involved will just have to settle legally (refund accidental transmission of funds etc). So it's kinda back to just having a bank running a procedure with plenty of legal guarantees and insurance etc.

.... Maybe these are obvious questions. I'm going to have to read more about this

yeah, Move is definitely better than solidity and has strong enforcement of correctness, especially the Sui implementation

and yes, these things are generally too powerful for what they really do, sui Move is probably the most sane one i have seen so far, it even has a base logic for algorithm correctness, idk what they call it "proving" some retarded analytical shit that can't possibly be used for anything more complicated than a retarded database script

you can probably win more money by learning solidity than Move but Move is by far a better one to work with and you will have less psychotic loons telling you what to do with it

idk! shitcoins, i hate them, and i especially hate how all this "fancy shit" is actually like, basically a step backwards and they pimp it like it's the future

it's not the future, and what i do with Go is 1000x more advanced shit than they do but never mind these clowns

no coincidence that the major preferred language base for all this shit is Rust

literally, they say "woo rust is so much better for servers" and then deploy them on database script DSLs and pretend that is consistent

it makes me sad

So this isn't used in Taproot then

no, as far as it goes with taproot, all they have is some vague specification of "tweaks" that let you associate, from the server (smart contract) side that various addresses are connected to the same "contract address" while hiding that fact from the network

from a cryptographic perspective, they are literally just an on-chain HD wallet scheme, there's nothing more to it, it's precisely the same, address + arbitrary string, hash, and voila, new public key that can't be seen as linked to the old one... so it gives you many "slots" to accept payments from the same base and your server can scan the mempool by iterating the allowed "tweak values"

literally just the same shit as HD keychains, which is like 201 5 technology, and actually the theoretical principle dates back way further than that, and yeah while i'm talking about AI, the principle behind AI symbol graphs is literally exactly a form of hash tweak shit like taproot addresses, that they call "proximity hash" and they use different bit scrambling algorithms to achieve the actual "proximity" between two similar inputs

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Thread creeping here. Episcopal is a great blend between Protestant and Catholic. It’s like Catholicism without the bureaucracy of the Vatican.

interesting

i'm not familiar with the history of the Mass, i presume there is some basis in the bible for the sequence of it?

also, let the threads creep and the features be squashed flat

“History of the Mass”? What do you mean

there must be some trail of history of changes to the procedure somewhere, like, the first version, and updated versions

all things humans do as procedures (protocols) eventually get documented and then once documenting starts to be normal then you have a change history

If by Mass you mean the Divine Liturgy and the script of the Mass, then yeah def not in the Bible. Like most things celebrated in the church, it’s a tradition that came about by the people in the church. Many such cases. Not necessarily good or bad though.

I haven’t figured out when it started but I would guess maybe in the Council of Nicea. Or one of those early councils when they attempted to have a “rules and regulations” for the church.

yeah, i figured it was something like that

it's very nice, i mean, it's like mcdonalds production protocols, it's a protocol at all

i was raised in SDA and later went to services by other protestant churches but the mass had a certain vibe about it, not like a cult, but just, efficient, and to the point

i am now attending Mass every sunday, because it is admonished of all Christians to be at a church and yeah, what i liked the most about the procedure was one step very near the end, before the communion

idk if this is some funny portuguese thing or even just a local custom but all the people in a bank of pews who could reach each other all shook hands with each other, and made eye contact

this to me fulfills the requirement, of congregating, in a way that i never really experienced in a protestant type of church ever before in my life

i think it is part of the mass though, isn't it?

Yeah. Everyone offers a sign of peace to each other. It’s standard in the Catholic mass. What denomination of church are you going to?

I agree that Christians need to be going to church more. It’s become an after thought. However the church needs to be more than just a place to go to on Sundays. Hence why I’ve grown to enjoy my Episcopal church. They are very involved in the community (free dinners, yearly fair, diaper drives, school supplies for kids, etc.)

it's a standard portuguese - roman catholic?

yeah, the people all seem to gather and chat after Mass, i think that's part of it, and i have seen many of them around

i'm not really so interested in this charity stuff but when it's needed it's needed... it's just not really needed here... i can only speculate because the worst of the destitution here is being on welfare smoking and drinking and doing nothing

Sounds like a “Our Lady of Fatima” Church. Those are Roman Catholic. If it’s Portuguese it’s most likely Roman Catholic. If you have a cross with Jesus Christ on it in behind the altar it’s most likely Roman Catholic. Protestant Churches (generally) don’t put the actually body of Jesus Christ on their crucifixes.

It’s funny how much political influence had over a country’s denomination. I think that’s the real reason Catholics and Protestants (historically) don’t get a long.

yeah, the thing is the protestants are much easier to sway to debasing the culture and the society, and the money, for that matter... catholics are not fundamentalists but they are extremely certain about things that cannot be allowed to change

recent popes have been trying to unsettle all of that and i don't think any catholics are happy about it

on the other hand, in the uper levels of the clergy there is lots of issues with sexual abuse, but the laiety are not like this at all, and that's the main thing that interests me with spending my time around these people

at the church here mostly grandmas, and some grandmas with their young daughters, and then the men are moslly old farmers, actually i probably was one of the youngest in the congregation (the deacon was young), as were a couple of others up the front section)

and yeah, they have that separate section, during the proceedings there was too separate women who made a speech of some sort

I know a guy who’s a descendant of one of the kids who saw the apparition in the story of “Our Lady of Fatima” (so he claims).

I agree on Protestants being more likely to sway the traditions of the church. Could be bad and good depending on the circumstance.

There is a problem across the board with the age demographics in churches. Unfortunately young families aren’t going to church. I think it’s trickling into our culture. Just look at the media landscape and the lack of respect for each others, ourselves, and our communities.

The sexual abuse thing is tough. It happens in a lot of institutions but seems prevalent in the Catholic Church. I can’t tell if it is more prevalent in the Catholic Church or people hold them to a higher standard so it appears more prevalent. Priests should be allowed to marry (and women should be priests too, example Phoebe in New Testament). This would eliminate some of these cases. That’s one of the refreshing parts of Protestantism/Episcopalian (my church).

yeah, i get the distinct impression that the problem of priests not being married men is becoming understood in the Catholic church now also, and i thought it was interesting to see that it looked to me like several of the "extra parts" idk, if they were sermons, were being taken by females

the very first actual catholic service i attended was in an Our Lady of Charity (Mother Theresa) homeless shelter in Liverpool, it was a rosary, i don't remember very much of it though. i wasn't there long enough to see a mass. also, i spent a week in a shelter in Malta but also again i can't recall i don't think i attended a mass, it's a particular thing

i like the sound of this Episcopal... i probably would choose that then, if i do relocate to Wyoming where i have in mind to go maybe there in the near future

Good luck and God Bless.

2d6480d5... 9mo ago

Historically women within the Catholic church have been essential to many parts of its inner workings. Women can read scriptures but never conduct homilies as that is specifically done by priest.

Always fun to revive a thread 😄

It did seem to be a good blend of the two. The reason I haven't gone back, in addition to being lazy was they seem gay friendly:-D. Which is nice for me as a retired gay, but I just seem called a different way right now so I don't want anyone telling me I don't need to try to give straight a shot or at least asexual.