Is Amethyst the only Nostr client that can undo likes and reposts?
If so, why?
Discussion
The ability to undo likes is part of the NIP even. Not sure about reposts.
I don’t know
Good question
Relays are the only thing that can undo stuff.
But the client needs to support the feature in order to request it.
I'm not techie but I think they just hide them from being seen by other amethyst users. Cannot necessarily erase from nostr as long as at least 1 relay is alive and kicking.
Because amethyst is the best client. ✌️
Seems to import private key from Amber though?...
No
Why then does it display my private key under settings, backup keys?
If you never signed in with your private key and you’re using Amber, you shouldn’t even see the menu item “Backup Keys” in the first place.
Yes, I had previously. And even though I logged out and tried the 'login with Amber' process, clearing the cache is what I initially missed. Works now. Thanks.
#askelsat nostr:npub1zafcms4xya5ap9zr7xxr0jlrtrattwlesytn2s42030lzu0dwlzqpd26k5 😁
There is a temporary undo zap, which hasnt been extended to likes, posts, re-posts.
The big fish being fried in the pan now is nostrdb
I noticed this too... However I'm hesitant to switch back to Amethyst as it seems that even using Amber it imports your private key... (Or at least it becomes visible in the app settings) Whereas primal doesn't. Am I right about this?
No, if you use Amber, Amethyst has no way of seeing your nsec.
Whythen does the app show it when I click settings and backup keys?
That's strange. Did you log off from your current nsec-based account or just logged in without logging off? You can uninstall the app or clear the storage in the phone's/settings/apps/Amethyst as well.
nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z nostr:npub142gywvjkq0dv6nupggyn2euhx4nduwc7yz5f24ah9rpmunr2s39se3xrj0 #asknostr
The funny thing is that this feature is there since Feb 26, 2023, two months in as Amethyst, before nostr wallet connect was even a thing.
not being able to edit our notes, delete, repost, un-do, unlike etc is dumb.
We should always have full control to do whatever we want with our notes. Any client that tries to restrict that is not worth supporting. Never support or give them money.
I haven't had any issues with Amethyst.
Why do other clients not allow it? maybe they don't know their users want it, maybe they are working on other features or maybe they have a communist way of thinking. I dunno, ask them
nostr:nprofile1qyx8wumn8ghj7cnjvghxjmcpz4mhxue69uhk2er9dchxummnw3ezumrpdejqqgzn9kpsmllqnsf7wh5tz3wgy4cclsftqqplv8tpayrhwgw8llunevgnmdf3... I think you guys should allow this soon.
I didn't know that Amethyst had this feature, make sense and it's quite easy to implement (with the cooperation of relays, of course).
A usual people should be informed that the deletion of content is not assured on Nostr, and this could create some concerns.
For this reason, as a standard methodology, I would apply a small delay (2-5 secs) to the submission of all events, to give a chance to undo them, and thus resolve at least a fairly large group of errors.
This is how Nostur works. You can preview before posting, and undo publishing for a few seconds afterward.
Let’s ask nostr:nprofile1qqsdv8emcke7k3qqaldwv956tstu40ejg663gdsaayuuujs6pknw7jspzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtcpzdmhxue69uhhqatjwpkx2urpvuhx2ue0j737zg
nostr:nevent1qqs2xfg0lanuh83g0stdcpjq36zlhg3lvm24p6kt24302luvlhwjk5sr04u0y
You can undo likes on coracle
And you still don’t even do reposts, right?
Yes you can broadcast notes in coracle. It is the same as repost.
It’s been a while since I’ve used it.
It is defnitly worthwhile to use it. In my phone #coracle just renders wrong and often is not able to display the text I am typing.
No, broadcast only re-publishes. Coracle doesn't do reposts
Ok thank you for clarifying. I am confused. What would be the difference of republish and repost? Means republish, that I am not signing it?
Just recently I was asked why I never repost. Maby this is why then 🥲
Yeah, broadcast only senda the original not to the appropriate relays, repost is an entirely new event, signed by you
Good to know. Since in #amethyst Broadcast means to repost the note. Would defnitly be cool, when reposting a note would be possible in Coracle as well.
Otherwise I can only quote it in order to publish a note to people who follow me. (Like to say: look this note I like a lot)
Correct, IMO reposts are a social antipattern. I don't know why Amethyst would call reposts broadcasts, but that's neither here nor there
Why are reposts a social antipattern for you? I feel it is one of the core principles of sharing information, which is a basic humane attitude.
Or do you mean to always rather quote? So to say, eighter someone invests time to explain the personal take on a note, or it is not possible to understand in what context I present the note to someone?
Since I got outraged for this already on nostr. At the same time, sometimes I feel like just sharing a note as is. Like a great meme. Whoever sees this note will still see, that it was brought forward from me in the end. So they know to block me when the content is too noisy.
The idea is that it's a low-effort way to shove some content in front of other people's eyeballs. Sharing stuff is often done unreflectively, and without investigation. The velocity of content is something the interet amplifies way past natural scale. This is good in some ways, but introducing friction restores a natural balance. Encouraging a comment with a repost is a way of introducing this friction.
i mean people also share things using chat, and they don't add a comment.
it's just a way of saying, hey look this, to your followers. i mean i know im sending yt video links to people using chat apps. but i only do this for people who are not following my accounts. if they are following me on social media, there is no need to copy paste content links to them.
What would you think to have a opt-in or opt-out option for coracle then. Since it seems like a topic that will be controversial for years probably.
I understand when your counterargument is time preference for more important topics. But I think from a feature perspective opt-in could be a great middle way to not clutter while offering the option.
Personally I think there’s already enough of a problem with lack of discovery on Nostr and reposts are often the only way I see things. A client could limit the number of times a repost is shown to a user by only displaying it once or consolidating all reposts of the same note. Shares are an important growth metric.
always blessed to be on this client
#amethyst #nostr