#zapwall feature request on #damus
Discussion
I wanted to write this and then thought people would burn me at the stick if I did ๐
The first person who zaps will put it on archive.is and make it available for free ๐
highly unlikely
ultimately information will always want to be free and specially digital information
systems don't need to be 100% bulletproof, because almost nothing is
I think the existence of arxhive speaks to the broken business model of #[4]โ โs nemesis in the nyt.
1) subscribe monthly or annually
2) buy physical paper from dead trees
3) buy 99 other articles
4) navigate through 47 ads, and three opinion pieces on why nuclear war is good for you, so you can find the 1 article you want to read
#zapwall โข๏ธ fixes this
How does that even work long term on a social media platform? You want people to read your articles and share it, thatโs why they are free, but if they canโt read, they canโt share. You engagement is going to be limited anyways .
It can include an unencrypted abstract
Look at onlyfans
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Look at movie theaters, or Netflix, or really any purchasable content
Same but different
Onlyfans is subscription based not pay per view. Most of these content creators on TWTR are not good enough to generate revenue through pay per view.
Whatโs onlyfans?
Itโs silly that in the year 2023 we havenโt tested this at scale. One model is to zapwall content a day or two early, and later release to all. There can always be an option to zap once content is open for all.
Most content purchasing decisions are made before consuming the content; you go to the movies before watching the movie.
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What makes sense to me are "crowdwalls" - content gets unlocked FOR EVERYONE as soon as X sats are paid. All or nothing. Like kickstarter.
Everything else doesn't make sense to me. Article paywalls? Laughable. Screenshots will circulate for the good stuff. Bad stuff will stay behind paywalls with effectively zero readers.
Paywalls artificially restrict reach. Against the design of computers and the internet.
My argument stands for static content only. Micropayments make all the sense in the world for compute, e.g. image generation and the like.
You can build vending machines around compute. You can't build vending machines around JPGs.
Almost like an auction? Once the price is reached, then the prize is won?
Interesting.
Turning the news into a cam girl show lol ๐ I like it? I think? Lol ๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ
With my limited knowledge, I kinda like this idea. Actually makes it fair for everyone in one simple tweek.
Well shit, I don't fucking know if it is actually simple.
Isnโt it already? Behind a veil of โprofessionalismโ and โseriousness topicsโ, old dudes are only watching the hottest anchors.
Yes, above and Alex Jones. Nassim
Taleb calls this the #barbell approach
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Precisely. And of course you like it.
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What if we abstracted it a layer further and just had the relays pay for the stories and then we pay the relay. Then we never have to even think about it and you just subscribe to the relays with the best aggregated shit and boom you automatically see all the good stories without doing any mental accounting.
I kinda like this; it's a pretty cool way of decommoditizing relays
Plus one of the biggest hurdles with micro payments in general is that humans find it hard to mentally account for. Just because we have the tech (and we do) doesnโt mean it maps to how humans think about their environments. We need to bring micro transactions in line with the limits of human attention.
#[7]โ and I have been talking about this in the context of content-specific relays.
e.g. you pay for the #[8]โ relay which aggregates all #footstr content and shares value back with foot-focused creators
This is the way.
Cool concept. So the general idea that an event is published and if that event gets enough zaps, the next event gets published. I think I could implement that with #[7]โ. I have the zap splits working, so this is the next cool radical thing enabled by #nostr #crowdwalls
๐ฏ agreed.
Revenue from ads or monthly fee should be directed to the best content creators. Best is up for debate thoughโฆ if only view counts basedโฆ weโll have invented tiktok 2.0.
Tiktok is vine 2.0 so at that point it would be vine 3.0
If bad stuff stays behind paywall without anyone reading it, that's a good thing, no?
Also paywalls for single use tickets to live events, even virtual, make sense. Specific to video and audio in this case, though Harry Potter books had pretty hyped up releases
I donโt know if that is any better. I feel like once itโs unlocked people will stop paying.
I do like crowd funding for future projects like music. Iโve supported several bands over the years that were self producing and self releasing albums.
> I feel like once itโs unlocked people will stop paying.
That's the point.
Even after unlocking if the quality pf the content is high people will continue to โtipโ
I can see โcrowdwallsโ working great in porn. Paid members can get access to new content by paying, non-paid folks get to see old content. Seeing the old content will give them the confidence to pay for the new stuff (theyโll know theyโll like it).
Itโs also awesome for newsโฆ I see articles all the time on a Apple News that are for paid members that I want to read. It would be better if I could read them after theyโre โoldโ.
This would be interesting to see. I wonder how we would we behave in this situation.
Im guessing if this benefits a certain person/group, they would want to pay to unlock it for all to see.
This is a really interesting idea.
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Iโm not sure why article paywalls wonโt work (sooo many people suffer from subscription overload) but I love this idea.
This is extremely interesting.
"Crowdwall" is a great name. This would be a great model for episodic content, too, say a serialized novel. "Next episode unlocks when this episode hits 10k sats" or something like that. For the enterprising nostrnaut, it doesn't need any technology or automationโit can be entirely manual to start with.