Nobody implements NIP-17...
My man...
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Discussion
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Even NostrDVM.
Shame. Shame. Shame.
Most of these are sus and the other are things I've never heard of. The only one I use is coracle but I hate it
NIP-04 DMs can't die until all major clients are in this list.
Ah, but sir, #Primal hasn't implemented it, so all the rest are "nobody."
Primal isn't a real nostr client though
That's a bit of an overreach, but I understand why folks would hold that opinion. I am not a fan of only reading from their caching relay, if that is your main argument for why.
Primal users want to be real nostr.
What is the benefit of the switch?
(Super short version. I’m unaware of what is being missed or adapted.)
Sure, I'll do my best.
The old and deprecated DM spec, defined in NIP-04, leaks metadata to anyone who wants to see it. While the content of the messages are themselves encrypted, the information about who is sending and who is receiving is public for all to see. This on its own can be pretty destructive to privacy.
The latest completed DM spec is defined in NIP-17. It is superior to NIP-04 because it uses better encryption (defined in NIP-44), and it does not leak information about who is sending the DM, only who is receiving. Therefore, anyone who is watching can only see that someone specific received a DM, but they cannot tell who they received it from.
We are hopeful about a new spec that is in the works that will also make it impossible to tell who the intended recipient is, unless you are that intended recipient. It will also make private groups a possibility on Nostr. Keep an eye on what nostr:npub1zuuajd7u3sx8xu92yav9jwxpr839cs0kc3q6t56vd5u9q033xmhsk6c2uc posts about WhiteNoise for updates on the progress.
The NIP detailing how we're using MLS is at worth a read. https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/pull/1427
White Noise is moving along and we'll hopefully have a beta (that won't be changing anything big enough to nuke all your group chats) in a month or two. For now, feel free to use the alpha and send us feedback!
Excellent recap! Thank you for taking the time.
wa wa wa
I know Hzrd doesn't want to prioritize this yet but I'm still living in the hopes that he implements it in noStrudel some day soon
Snort
NIP-17 is the standard. NIP-04 messages will be disregarded
Don't have DMs yet on nostr:nprofile1qqs0f0clkkagh6pe7ux8xvtn8ccf77qgy2e3ra37q8uaez4mks5034gfw4xg6 , but will do that when that time comes.
so I can send more tests? :wolf_smile:
Is that your wolf emoji? Adorable xD
Feed is wrapped up and happy with it now =3
But DM tests probably not anytime soon. It'll happen sooner rather than later if traditional community funding campaign(s) is a success (not sure when that'll happen, still doing paperwork).
When NIP-88 on amethyst?