Telegram gets blocked. My family uses it though.
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Telegram is terrible
Agreed
Terrigram.
….I’ll see myself out
#[4] , but somehow useful in practice, what would be better decentralized alternative for file sharing messaging app? Can nostr suport large files?
Definitely not safe
Yeah in a lot of cases. I've stop use it long time now.
Was odd to me that Telegram was the preferred network here v Signal. I just thought it was because you could have a username v give your number on Telegram.
I mainly use Signal (I convinced my family to use it). I have Telegram, but rarely open the app
I mainly use Telegram (I convinced my family to use it). I have Signal, but rarely open the app
Yeah it's irritating that all of the nostr communities are on telegram
Maybe it’s time for nostr communities to… chat on nostr? Is it in the cards for Damus to support public and private group chats? #[8]
Would def move / mirror our telegram group chat over to Nostr.
Had support for that but people complained the chat view was confused so i removed it
I think so too. Unfor looking to github reveals that public and private group chats still need a quite lot of work. So they might not work until long time - like a month 🤣
Keen to see this, maybe in a separate app? I think it could steal market share from slack and discord, there groups just want simple team/group chats.
* where
Something like this? https://thearcapp.com
Needs a lot of improvements.
I dig it. 😯😲
I don’t know what it is, but I dig it. 😌🤙
Something like, yes. I’m running the TestFlight build, but it seems to have stagnated.
Anigma is a telegram style client on nostr, but pretty sure it had security issues re: keys being leaked or something along those lines
anigma is a most definitely a scam. it leaks your privkey on *purpose* and overrides your lightning address
If that’s true, then it’s unfortunate that nostr.com is apparently built on Anigma?
If you go to anigma it does show a disclaimer at the top telling you not to use a private key you aren’t comfortable leaking. I’m curious why they would put that disclaimer up there and not just fix the issue.
Looks to be #[10] repository on GitHub. He’s only on 3 relays here so not sure he’ll see this.
The creator quit supporting it after a bunch of security vulnerabilities. It's a shame, but this is voluntarism warts and all. https://twitter.com/super_testnet/status/1604973673836056576
Afaik the creator was not a javascript front end expert.... it was vanilla js in page and a fun experiment. I don't think it was intended as a scam.
All solutions are temporary until we can keep our private keys truly secure instead of having to input them into clients.
More people should checkout NIP-49, encrypted private key import/export. So far the only client I know that implements this is the Gossip client by #[13] Worth checking it out.
It's fairly trivial to fix anigma: escape innerhtml and implement window.nostr, so that it doesn't need to store any private keys. I'm not sure why no one has done it, maybe I'll do it this weekend.
rogue code can still decrypt your dms if the plugin is set to auto-decrypt
how would it override a lightning address? :|
Does anigma only leak if you are attached to it?
time for someone to make a better client? :D
this is one of the features yes. Also it is banned in some countries while Signal is not. This tells me everything 🤣
Ah Signal had really poor quality compared to Telegram going back about 5-6 years. Also recall that Signal wasn't well funded at the time either, it was barely scraping by.
Telegram really hit massive traction in the 2017 Crypto ICO Boom period when all the chatter swarmed there, along with a ton of hyip scams
Sucks that people don't get this or get it and don't care
I’ve heard, just figured it might be better than no options.
altho…
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Good alt?
Signal’s not much better
Pourquoi?
I wonder what #[6] uses?
he's one of the co-founders of Signal[ but he does use nostr...
Ah, thanks! I wonder what the perceived problems are?
co-founded by the NSA as well and uses phone numbers, leaks metadata
Mmmmmm I always had this voice in my head saying its not so private if they need your number for the initial setup. Later on found out the link with certain intelligence agencies ...and my suspicions were confirmed....Thank you for that info, so many ppl falling in this trap still....
this doesnt mean its no good. all they can get is the meta data. you could also use a burner number or free online number just for this purpose
You’re telling me it was co-founded by #[6] and the NSA?
yes this is public information
Fantastic. Please share if you can.
Entertaining, thanks. I also didn’t know that Elon Musk is a spy.
Do you have a reputable source with evidential backing? That might be more helpful.
The Snowden leaks were a good model, I’m surprised he’s not blown the whistle on this one - out of character!
Signal was co-developed by the NSA
it’s very convenient and feature rich. also they monetize it well. but it is a corporate product with all the consequences. my account got limited because of spambots adding me to their groups and me trashing these groups. unfair
Telegram said it’s encrypted, but reality is not.
Is Zion legit? Just d/l it this morning, having an account setup issue, but I'm curious.
Signal 🤙
keet
Ah. Sorry. What about signal, same issues there?
doesnt vpn help with geo-block?
VPNs haven’t been working there for a long time. It works sometimes doesn’t work others.
i can imagine ppl not wanting to use it then. draws even more attention if it's not consistently working. situation sucks man.
Yep, it sucks…. I feel so helpless being in the us, I don’t know what to do, but I want to help.
Depends on the protocols you use. But yeah, for non techies it’s a non-trivial task.