After months of work, I've discovered a way to build Chaumian Ecash mints on Lightning that don't hold the users' funds.

It's not clear to me yet whether this can actually be made useful or it's only theoretically possible but the sheer possibility makes me incredibly excited.

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does that remove the rugging risk completely? if so, it's a major breakthrough.

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don't know what this means but it sounds awesome! hope it will be realized to something real!

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Oh I should mention that there were around 69 failed attempts before I found a solution that might work.

Gotta enjoy the process or lose your mind on the way.

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I just lost my sats from minibits so untill this improves im sticking to what works and tgats the strike app

That should not have happened. Have you asked nostr:npub1kvaln6tm0re4d99q9e4ma788wpvnw0jzkz595cljtfgwhldd75xsj9tkzv about it?

We are working through the recovery indexes to reach the unspent nuts.

Everything got fixed i now love minibits even more

Good to hear!

Define "on lightning" plz

That sounds pretty magical

Ecash disrespectors are in shambles right now

Let it rip!

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What is the risk of double spend? I am not technical enough to understand all of this, but it seems the further removed from on chain, the greater the risk of double spend. Maybe I'm just dumb and there's no risk of this?

I dont think it is about double spends. It's about someone holding your actual Bitcoin and being able to do whatever they want with it.

True if big

Multisig with Coinbase? That's it, isn't it? Multisig with Coinbase.

Are you saying on-custodial Ecash?

Non-custodial*

Calle is it just lightning

Is it based on the idea that you can provably encrypt the token to a pubkey, and atomically providing the corresponding decrypting privkey as a scalar to a PTLC?

critical point since mint custody is based on trust - also liability

but mint where fund originated from still need to be online as is now?