1. the smaller the animal, the more efficiently they convert sunlight to meat (rabbits are the most efficient human regularly consume)

2. they can survive off of margin land, whereas cattle need straight grass

3. goats would be optimal, but are impossible to train to a 1 wire rotational grazing system. They need at least 2 and most likely 3/netting

4. most ewes have twins and triplets are even possible.

5. taste way better

6. If you live in a wet climate, they're lighter and won't pug up the ground. Which also means you can graze riparian buffers more frequently.

7. Highly unlikely to get injured by a ram.

Don't get me wrong, cattle and beef have their place in our system, but there is a reason lamb and goat consumption used to be way higher in the US before subsidized agriculture.

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Interesting.

they can crash a local ecosystem in a hurry if not managed though.

Any animal can crash a local ecosystem if not managed properly. Cattle especially so. Go look at 95% of cattle ranches and see how they're decimating pond and drainage banks.

You ever have any Great Pyrenees?

My lgd is a pyranese kommondor mix. I'll be breeding her with a burnese next time she's in heat. I'll end up keeping 1 or two pups around just to pull carts for tree planting and such

Any wait to get a GP

Dm me if you're near Missouri, I have sources.

I’m waaay up in NW Washington. I’m going to adopt one. Lots of good dogs that need a farmstead to work

Make sure to get one from a farmer and not a breeder.

Working stock is best. The genetics are solid as a rule if they are being bred to work.

Used to have a Pyrenees named Roxy. Best dog ever on the prairies. On the coast now so Boerboel bitch. I have no critters to herd or guard atm but for some reason don't feel right without a workbuilt dog around.

Depending on what you're trying to do, karakachan has been an excellent all around homestead dog for me. Great at guarding, can do some herding, does well at mousing, friendly to people (except delivery drivers lol).

We are big fans of McNab herding dogs.

Those are great dogs! I’m more looking for a live stock guardian dog though.

As far as I understand cattle are "designed" genetically to cover a vast expanse of land, like a state or a small country.

They must migrate so that the ecosystem has time to recover, and to benefit from and process their manure.

Nowadays that process is replaced by an industrialized system that does not resonate with Nature.

how does wool figure in with your set up? I'm curious what you guys do with it.

asking as an avid knitter 🧶

I trade the wool from our dairy sheep or give it away. Most of our sheep are hair sheep so they don't need sheering.

Have you tried processing raw wool? I've heard it's pretty time consuming at small scale. Never had the time to try.

I have processed raw wool but not a full fleece. yeah, it is time consuming on a small scale but satisfying to produce a sweater from raw wool.

I wonder how much it would cost to ship you one of our sheeps fleeces? I bet I could get to be a decent size if I vacuum seal it. If you're interested in giving it a shot let me know, I would send you some just to see what happens.

How much wool do you think you would need to make something like a sweater or some of those hats?

oh man 😁 I would LOVE to take you up on this but I'm 35 weeks pregnant with my first so life is going to be very crazy for a little bit. I definitely want to revisit this when things settle down though.

for reference, I think 2lb is a good place to start considering wool loss during processing, how much lanolin/dirt/vm is in it and etc.

If you know anyone who is making clothing from the sheep's skin once they've been tanned and such, let me know. There has to be someone doing it besides uggs and I'm trying to have a big jacket made.

I haven't come across someone who works with sheepskin/shearling since I'm not much of a leatherworker myself. But if I ever do, I'll let you know!

First post I read tonight of two so far hearing the problems of agriculture subsidies. Such an important problem and it shapes everything.

And guess when it really ramped up?