This op return drama has been really bizarre. First they mishandle opposing views, then call the community attackers then people say now is the time to support core.. can no one read the room at all?
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That's what I'm saying and getting ratioed for.
Eh... They won't go away, they're still in the lead. The decentralization ethos is way more important than one team.
Still moving to knots. And when a 3rd node software that can deliver the promises I'm looking for, I will move there too. All in the name of decentralization.
Not a good look for sure
Seems to me like the room is being read perfectly.
People that are actually spammers are manipulating people who donāt understand codeā¦ pretending to be opposed to spammersā¦
Wild esp when some of us KNOW those exact people are the actual spammers
Itās dishonest. Itās an attack on Bitcoin. And itās an attack on builders.
All while they cosplay and virtue signal.
The PR was never merged, it was submitted in an optionable configurable way, and we have a process for contesting those things.
Iām glad this all happened (as much as I wanted to avoid the experience) because I think we all walk away from this knowing exactly who is a grifter.
And that has been a long time coming. š£ļø
Who are the spammers? How are they manipulating people?
Other projects outside of bitcoin have used value based mechanisms for combatting spam FOR YEARS
this is well known in the developer community
Currently people use witness data at a discount
The way to combat spam is make it costly
The problem with the PR as is is that it introduces extreme hardware constraints
So you have an entire community of people (aside from projects like libbitcoin) ignoring the real existential crisis, layering the conversation with dense technical word salad, all while ignoring where real bloat comes from at a discount
Forcing people to use the op_return makes it costly to spam
Bitcoin is a value based system and value based systems depend on hard coded value mechanisms to defend the network
Things like Standardness (policy) were created as short term mechanisms to reduce load until we have better solutions
You didnāt answer my question
Yes I didā¦ people shoving shit into the witness data at a discount
Of course that depends on what you define as spam
Every transaction that hits the chain is a āvalid transactionā technically speaking
But personally speaking IMO most things that arenāt transactional data are attempts at bloating the UTXO set
Making constraints on people who build hardware
Iām a hardware girl Iāve been a hardware girl my whole life
Hardware is my concern and software needs to be compatible
What people? How many? Very vague statements. Context needed.
š youāre exposing yourself
Exposing as what exactly? All I see are vague statements by people who claim technical superiority but fail to provide any actual numbers to back anything they say. Just āspammersā
This is exactly what Iām talking about. You and I both know that youāre capable of getting into the open source metrics and looking at what Iām talking about yourselfā¦
But youād rather delay my day and my contributions to have a silly fucking argument with you
2017 fucking called and they want their bullshit back
I didnāt make any statements about spammers, you did. Why should I spend any time to back up your statements?
Same vibes as hereās my proof, go read and watch these videos and articles.
I donāt need to I can read code
This was anticlimactic. I thought I was gonna get some names
Also Iām not a developer and never claimed to be one. I do my best to understand technical information as it is presented to me - itās my job a lot of times to interpret it to laymen terms. And so far I havenāt seen any definitive arguments. Just people calling people stupid. Which in itself is stupid.
You don't understand shit anymore. All noise for nothing