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Lmao, defending North Korea and China as "not perfect" is next level commie cope

I have shared plenty of articles about the killing of Muslims by the us over the last decade. Thousands of such articles exist. My family is Muslim. It's an important issue to me.

Solving the radical islam problem by rounding up millions of innocent people and removing children from their parents and that's an acceptable "final solution" to you?

Disgusting filth

I don’t think that’s what he’s saying. I kind of alluded to the same thing. There are no good guys here.

His first line is that china solved the problem with this solution.

Correct there are no good guys. That's not implied anywhere. The question is why is this not big news , why doesn't anyone care?

Yes. I get it. Poorly worded for him.

I care and have thought about this.

Not to be “just a Bitcoiner” but most would say they can barely keep their own heads above water (by design) so don’t have time to care.

Fix the money, fix the world actually saves lives. True true.

Slow process but generations from now will thank us for fighting.

There are problems that money can't solve. No matter what you call that money. Bitcoin or seashells.

Here’s one. You’re going to get older and die. Money don’t help.

It's not a problem 😂

It is for some.

Well, what should be done with them? Shoot half of them and throw the other half back to the Middle Ages and leave them to grow raw materials for drugs? The climate does not allow it, and in general China is not close to the American approach.

There are no easy solutions. It will still hurt. China's approach gives these people a chance at a civilized (rather than religious) education, provides them with jobs, medicine, and helps form a secular society. Is that a bad thing? Well, it may be bad for Muslims, but it's good for China.

I still remember Free Tibet and how now this Tibet lives better than other American states or European countries. Apparently it should be freed from peaceful life and plunged into eternal war with China until the last Tibetan dies with an American rifle in his hands.

Actually there is an easy solution. Leave people alone. Your view that china is "civilized" and that communist state is better than people freely choosing their own cultures and traditions is truly fucked up.

Pretty much convinced you're a CCP agent at this point, so either way go fuck yourself. Commie.

China cannot leave them alone, they do not live in a vacuum. The West will create its agent cell there and help form a new ISIS inside China, as it has done many times before.

Nowadays, it's hard to find people more tolerant of religions than the Chinese. They don't take away culture and faith. What I can't say about Muslims.

Yes, they can be left alone. Self governing region, at a minimum. People have the right to determine their government. Nobody needs to be enslaved.

I wonder why I hear the opposite about Donbass and Crimea 🤔😅

Because you’re watching tv

So you think that Ukraine should give up its territory, its people, its politics, in favor of a mythical freedom of choice.

Man, what pony world you live in.

Interesting how I said nothing like that, but that’s what you apparently got out of it. 🤷‍♂️

You said that the Uighurs have the right to freedom of choice of government, to a self-governing region. Then I asked why Donbas does not have the right to the same thing? You replied that I watch a lot of TV. From which I concluded that Donbass, in your opinion, has such a right.

But enough about that. Dobass does not have this right, because people in the Pentagon and the White House don't want it. The Uighurs have this right because the people in the White House want it.

And you all are just repeating what you are told. Not on television. The CIA has been sitting on the internet for a long time and even uses Nostr. Their employees are required to read Snowden in all sources.

You didn’t ask why Donbass doesn’t have the right to self determination. You asked why you don’t hear that.

That’s why I said you don’t hear that because you’re watching TV.

I believe they do have the right. Like all people.

It doesn't work like that. Catalonia was recently told where it belongs, and Scotland before that. Considering the interests of "free people with rights", one cannot put them above the interests of China because it is China that dictates order and law. The USSR no longer exists and Xinjiang is absolutely China.

Russia terminated Chechen rebels until Western nations started acknowledging them as Chechen terrorists. Despite this, the issue of radicalism in Russia remains unsolved. China's implementation of strict authoritarian measures indicates they are avoiding the mistakes made by their northern neighbor and addressing the problem at its source.

I'm not worried about the Uighurs. Their religion and culture will not disappear. But their future generations will have to live by Chinese rules, they will become Chinese themselves. Organizations like World Uyghur Congress and Campaign for Uyghurs, sponsored by EU and US money, spreading anti-Chinese propaganda, will cease to exist, as soon as the flow of free dollars dries up.

PixelBob 2y ago

Agreed, we only know what's going on in China from what our corrupt press reports. China wants to keep all religions from gaining enough power to threaten their grasp on power. And stopping Islam should be high on that list. The west will regret not stopping Islam when it had the chance.

Islam is not just a religion about bearded men, it is an ideology and as an ideology it can be very dangerous. For criticizing the prophet Muhammad in Paris they can cut off your head, in Moscow they can beat you up... China has every reason not to want that.

Yes, we are often given an example of the United States, an example of the positive existence of Islam in the Western world.

I have a numbers answer to that. 911.

Disturbia 2y ago

lol. im amused. im not even bearded

You're Asian 😅 Of course you're not bearded.

I think Muslims among Tatars or Turks are often beardless too.

Disturbia 2y ago

Hey zenkov. I am a muslim. Not the liberal kind. But a practicing. One literally facing kaabah now for prayers. Allahuakbar (hope that doesnt freak you out! 🤣🤣)

I doubt i will stone or dismember anyone. Well maybe i have to dismember , but that is because i am a doctor. So you know, ingrown toenail and stuff. Im actually praying in a clinic now.

Im just a regular moderate muslim, like a big portion of muslim around the world. Unfortunately, the shakalala terrorist has made bad impression of us.

Tell you what, come and visit Malaysia. Maybe that will change your mind. We have cool beaches here.

The Daniel ⚡️ 2y ago

I live in a place with massive diversity in population, religion, culture and economic means. I have never met an evil Muslim. Most of them seem very cool and are a delight to hang out with.

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Isn't it rich someone advocating for communism and coming from a culture that setup gulags and death camps can criticize billions of people for being uncivilized lmao

Super low IQ stuff

you don't even know what GULAG means 😊

clambot 2y ago

I live somewhere similar, and can say I've met both.

Like any group, you'll have the passive ones (technically religious but not practicing), the ones that practice but still hold some contradictory views to the religion, and the fundamentalists.

I live in an environment where Muslimism is practiced by several nationalities. I have absolutely no problems with the Tatars. But with Dagestanis it will be a different story.

The Daniel ⚡️ 2y ago

I reject religious fundamentalism of all kinds. The universe is too big for any one faith to claim to hold all the answers. Believe what works for you and let others live in peace.