Me: *on-boards thousands of users and teaches users how to use Nostr*

Dev: no, users don't want that, you don't know what users want.

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Silence! A dev is speaking

I get what you're throwing down.

Smelling what I’m stepping in

reality check, those same users are probably not here now 😱

:PV:

you're right, many of them aren't, because nostr is too complicated for them to stick around. that said, i still see many users from back in my twitter days that i helped get them started here. many OGs still creating notes and sending zaps.

the problem is not that it is too complicated but that it has not yet reached a critical mass, zap is only a reaction to something that already exists, so it does not bring new value and creates a lot of friction

sure some people leave because of critical mass and not wishing to 'talk into the void', but others leave because it's too complicated.

hell, we have an experienced developer that has not only burned his business profile's nsec, but he also recentely burnt his personal nsec too. hell adam back lost his nostr nsec as well!

it's blatantly obvious that private keys are hard. it's why we put them on a fucking dedicated hardware device to only use from time to time or in rare cases with bitcoin. we're literally asking people to do the same thing for every single like, zap, and comment. for some this is 1000 signed transactions per say.

now take that into account and realize how many people keep their bitcoin on exchanges.

we know key management is hard as fuck, yet we want to normalize it to where people are using it 1000 times a day.

cmon.

things have to be easier.

I saw this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ej9pRJvTZU

It would be difficult even with this device.

Developers are also normal people and can make mistakes. If an account is compromised or you lose the key, it's useful because that person or nearby developers can study new methods. Without these cases, everything works.

Or the zbd method with frost, but I don't think it's easier.

They're acting like the government, you say? šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚

Rule 1: You are not the user.

it's really hard to understand what users want and need without speaking to users or interacting with users. people in the trenches know these things better than those that do not.

good article and it also reaffirms what im doing with community outreach and devrel.

It's a heavy read and over a decade old now, but his book was a big lightbulb for me when it came out.

https://www.amazon.com/Four-Steps-Epiphany-Steve-Blank/dp/0989200507

The other is The Mom Test by Fitzpatrick.

https://www.amazon.com/Mom-Test-customers-business-everyone/dp/1492180742

thanks for the recommendations.

You are doing God's work. You need all the patience.

patience is thin right now. i may need to go touch some grass already this early in the morning lol

Why not? Go touch grass, think about how great the old centralized social media were... I'm sure that will give you the correct perspective and put you back on track. :-)

It was cool to meet you in person at Nostr Valley last year my man.

I think a lot of folks here would do well to remember that we are all real people here and not fast food cooks or Roombas.

It's not that users don't care, but that we've been preconditioned to not need to care. Refusing to acknowledge that is the first step to repeating the mistakes of the past.

Devs and adopted users like us need to work hand in hand. Everyone is needed equally. One the same frequency & vibration. Change my mind.

absolutely. no one can do it alone.

Devs šŸ™‚ā€ā†•ļø

You can't live with them, you can't live with them šŸ˜‚

we're all on the same team here.