You've still got the magnetic field of the speaker itself in your ears. I don't worry about it.

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I have a ten year old pair of Shure in ears. They cost me $250, but they still sound incredible, hands down my favorite way to listen to music. Wireless headphones are gay 😂

Are they gross now? 10 years is a long time and a lot of earwax and sweat haha

Do you not maintain your hardware? 😂 You clean them 🤣 They have replaceable ear buds & cables as well if things get too bad.

Maintain? You mean buy a new one?

I prefer to buy quality. Spend $250 once 10 years ago, or $50 every year for something inferior.

I guess the tradeoff is that you end up using outdated headphones. How much do you spend to maintain and clean it?

These are pro grade in ear monitors, not regular headphones, they sound better than any retail tech you can buy. Good headphones don't go bad.

Cleaning is free, and I'm still using the replacement tips that originally came with it, there were several included. A new pack might be $20. I cut the cord once. A new one was $40.

This would be a comparable modern model.

https://www.shure.com/en-US/products/earphones/se846?variant=SE846G2CL

Not comparable to retail shite.

I hate how these feel in my ear though

I did too initially, but I can't go back to cans after how good these sound. The buds for these will mold to your ears too which really helps. Cheaper options use worse materials, and are less comfortable. I know, I owned a lot before these, they always irritated my ears if I was using them for long periods. You get what you pay for.

I found the cables on the Shure IEMs don’t last very long and are expensive to replace, unless I really need some for a job I’m sticking with over ears.

I’ve never understood how people can wear a lot of the wireless buds I see, they look uncomfortable and give a vibe like the sound will be totally crap, oh and they need charging, bollocks to that.

Very happy with wired Sennheisers on my ears.

MMV I guess, I've replaced once in ten years. I find the bass response so much better on in-ears. Over ears just aren't the same for me.

Fully agree on most in ears though, a lot of crap, and time spent recharging.

Fair, pre-Covid I was gigging/touring more and had the switch but hadn't got to the point where I felt super comfortable. Since then I've been way more studio focussed so no practical upside to IEMs, for me at least. If I had a tour mixing monitors I'd defo invest in a new pair or at least stock up on cables for the ones I have. Makes way more sense creating mixes for musicians using IEMs myself when how they're hearing things.

Mixing front of house I find myself constantly taking them in an out as I want to hear the room sound, probably goes a long way to explaining why I have issues with the cables, it's more practical having a 'phone I can press to my ear when needed while keeping an ear on the room.

I improved bass response comes from the fit, much like if you press most over ears against your head a little.

Given you using decent ear pieces that actually fit in the ear drum, how do you find communication? Or are you constantly taking the earpiece in/out?

Isn't that still less bad?

It just depends on whether you believe the hype about EMF. It's not an issue for me. In fact what I really think about it is that it's a misdirection to make people think that the way they're exploited using electronic technology has some kind of physical cause, rather than being mostly psychological.

Blue light at night is the one thing from that camp that I personally think is real, since I eliminated it completely and it helps a ton. But if I were to eliminate all sources of EMF, rather than the physical waves, the lack of exploitation via internet content would have more of an impact on my wellbeing.

I just remember learning that girls who left their phones in their bras got breast cancer. I also heard that people who get brain cancer typically get it in the area closest to where the cellphone antenna would be during a phone call. And of course I've heard that keeping a phone in your pocket damaged sperm motility. I'm open to being proven wrong though. Would like to put my phone in my pocket again 😂

Antennas are usually at the bottom of the phone, to keep them further from the head. The inverse square law helps out a lot to minimize the power you're subjected to. Also look into the difference between ionizing & non ionizing radiation. It's probably not as serious of an issue as a lot of people think. At least that's my understanding.

Maybe I'm getting lazy or maybe I'm just starting to mature, but I am starting to not care about science and research as much. I know I still go on these little rants about health, pharma, and vaccines. But there is so much research out there that you can find to support whatever predetermined conclusions you have. So I'm at the point where I'm just going to assume that most things are bad for you but that the stress of worrying about those unhealthy things is equally harmful. So I try my best to avoid but also make sure to not let it completely disrupt my life. For example, if I'm alone I will just talk on the phone with speaker on. If I can't do that, then I'll grab headphones if they're available. But if they aren't I'll just put the phone up to my ear. That's how I feel about wired headphones. There isn't enough time in the world to review and debunk all the research on various health problems.

When I hear all this about EMF and the rest, I just hear superstitions. Nothing I say will prove you wrong, because I've made up my mind based on that alone, and because I trust my own judgement and intuition.

I put the "EMF causes health problems" rabbit hole in the Hoax pile. And like everything, if it really is real, there will inevitably be something that will physically force me to reconsider it.

That's fair but it could just be one of those things that affect you negatively but in such a small manner that you don't notice until it has accumulated over a long period of time. At that point, it may not matter anymore but idk. For example, the covid vaccine fucked a lot of people up but many were fine. That doesn't mean it won't have unidentifiable negative consequences on your children. What if the rise in autism is caused by sperm damaged by EMF radiation?

It's definitely a possibility. And in high doses anything is harmful. The nervous system works on electrical impulses, every chemical interaction has some energy well that could be activated by an EMF pulse of some kind. Prolonged exposure is sure to have some effect or other, and along with the inflammation of a bad diet and other things, harmful effects could be compounded slowly over time.

What can I do though? Do I remove strong sources of EMF that could have negative impacts on me? Or is it possible to make myself strong enough that those waves don't harm me even if they are present? What I don't want to do is be scared of them, at least. What I should do instead, I don't know.

A little of what I mentioned before. Use speaker phone more. Avoid keeping your phone in your pocket. Turn the wifi off before bed. You could also put your phone on airplane mode before bed or when you have to keep it in your pocket. If the EMF waves are harmful then reducing any amount of exposure will be good for you. And if it's harmless, maybe you still benefit by disconnecting from the internet just for a little while.

I think my router should have some setting to run on a schedule. I should look into that. Charging my phone in another room is something I used to do that really benefitted me, and I can go back to doing that.

New earphones/wired headphones are an investment that I can look into later. But I wonder what change might come around from just turning off the wifi at night. To keep just one variable in play.

Idk but I just remembered seeing this in a book called the invisible rainbow.

Is just the corner of that shrub dead? That's wild.

Yup. It gave me the idea to buy two of the same plants and place one next to the wifi router and the other somewhere else in the room. Then see what happens after a few weeks.

Do it, that could be interesting 🤔

If I did it, both plants might die 😂

I said it was interesting not that I would do it 😂

Well, the radios on my router are now off between 10 and 7

PC unaffected, since it's ethernetted.

Ethernet is the way

So the science is fake and gay. What else is knew? 😂

Here’s the Grok TLDR:

“The 2010 PhD thesis by Don Maisch critiques how Western exposure standards for radiofrequency/microwave (RF/MW) electromagnetic radiation from telecom tech (e.g., cell phones, radar) have been set since the 1950s. It argues that bodies like IEEE and ICNIRP (backed by WHO’s EMF Project) use a “Procrustean approach”—forcing scientific data to fit a thermal-only hazard model (where only heating effects matter), while ignoring or marginalizing evidence of non-thermal biological risks due to political, military, and industry biases/conflicts of interest. This prioritizes economic interests over public health. Case studies cover US IEEE standards development, their global spread, and Australia’s failed attempt at ICNIRP harmonization. Maisch calls for reforming the process (e.g., better peer review, risk assessment) and reassessing biological limits, given widespread exposure.”

Prof Martin Pall studies the human effects:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ojZIYfb72ME