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If you are new and don’t get the hype about nostr, here is a quick recap of why it’s a big deal:

1. Network effects - when everyone builds into the same protocol without permission, you get all sorts of interesting interactions. All of them are then easily discoverable by your followers. Example: start streaming > access the entire nostr network without lifting a finger. Without the walled gardens, information travels further and faster to reach more people. This is probably the most powerful aspect of nostr.

2. No need to keep re-building your audience. They follow you no matter where you are, which app/client you are building or using. The moment a new app comes online, you have access to those new features plus your entire audience and their broader sphere of influence. This is massive for startups because one of the biggest challenges of startups is reach. Nostr makes reach much easier not only through the follow functions, but also due to the nature of the broadcasted note.

3. Cheaper infrastructure - the cost to host things is spread across relays. Instead of paying for massive server infrastructure, you can spread your costs to relays. They are still paying for it, and you can even pay for it yourself with a private / hosted relay, but you always have the cheaper option.

4. Ability to add nostr functionality to existing apps. Want exclusivity on your customers and data but the ability to tap into nostr? You can do that. A good example is Fountain podcast app - a hybrid model that works. Now, most apps that benefit from social interactions can also benefit from Nostr.

5. Zaps - yeah, not even first on the list! Frictionless, one tap payments (or no tap payments? - stream on budget), to anyone, anywhere, across client, across OS, across everything. 🤯

6. No need to identify yourself. No emails required, just sign an event with your private key and nobody has to know who you are. Relays will have your IP unless you mask it, but otherwise you limit your exposure to hacks. As long as you don’t share anything you’re not willing to be seen out there, you’re fine. Can’t have identity theft without identities 😂

7. No deplatforming. A client can ban you from using their services, but you can just use another client. There’s literally no way to stop anyone from accessing nostr short of taking down all relays and all clients. This will slowly become an impossibility over time as the number of clients for each use case explodes in numbers. The only thing they CAN do is limit you from their audiences - like Apple wanted to do with Damus because of zaps.

8. Entirely new use cases never before seen - with this level of flexibility, you can create services that have never existed before because they were literally not possible. The sky is the limit, go wild with your imagination!

There are probably so many other reasons, but these are my top 8.

I have a few queries:

1. Who is this platform for? Because it is sounding too technical for me

2. What is zap?

3. Who are the clients who can ban users?

4. How does one build using a protocol?

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1. Everyone. You are just early and we’re in the process of building it out. User experiences will improve over time.

2. A zap is a bitcoin lightning payment over nostr.

3. Technically speaking any client can block your npub or maybe even IP from using that client. But since nostr is a protocol, you can just use another client to access it.

4. https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nostr

Holy fuck! I googled a bit about and holy fuck!

Basically the backend is the protocol and frontend can be whatever the "client" wants it to be

User can decide the client

Even if one client blocks, a user can always use another client

But holy fuck! It feels like I was living under a rock!

Also thank you :)

PS posting this from IRIS client on web, earlier I was using ios app

In good faith, Heres some answers for you,

1, it's for you. You can just use it and ignore the technical stuff if you want. I'm assuming you drive ? Cars are very technical these days, but you can drive one without being a mechanic.

2, zap is just the name for sending micro amounts of bitcoin in the denomination of sats to posts and people you like.

3, in theroy any cleint can ban someone or decide to not allow content. You can sign into any cleint on any device, your followers are attached to your private key not your cleint.

4, The Nostr protocol is similar to how E-mail is a protocol, you can add any function within the <> of the protocol and it will be sent along the relays. Similar to adding a calender to an E-mail service.

Hope that helps. 👍🏻

1. It's for everyone. You don't need to be technical to use it. There is a lot of technical talk because there are a lot of devs and enthusiasts who like those details. Over time people will build clients that take care of the technical stuff or make it easier for you.

2. Zaps are Bitcoin sent via the lightning network to other users. You can zap someone's note and the amount will show up publicly on the note. If you are using Damus though that feature was removed because Apple couldn't take a cut.

3. No client can be ban anyone completely. Some will block potentially bad users for you. Some relays may also attempt to filter out unwanted users. Amethyst on Android is one client that uses the report system to decide who to filter for you, and it has be turned off if you don't want filters.

4. Someone else will have to answer, I'm not a dev.

'If you are using Damus though that feature was removed because Apple couldn't take a cut.'

This means zapping is essentially at a dead end for Nostr. It will almost certainly never take off, since a LOT of people use apple iphones/macs. (at least in the western world). It won't kill nostr but it is a major setback that can not be overcome if the owners of one of the worlds most used operating system won't allow it. Apple also prevented bitcoin from becoming more popular. It makes one realise how powerful one company can be when it comes to global politcis and global finance.