Can you tell me what the fucking point of college is if college graduates now have the same unemployment rate as non-college kids?
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For you or for the people to whom you have to repay your student loan debt?
Delayed entry and a debt funded social experience.
There is no point. Ie it doesnât get you ahead
The fiat funded academia is pumping out knowledge rich students that are not needed by actual business
Itâs a huge miss-allocation of resources that in years to come will be laughed at
The internet changes everything. No need to physically attend an institution to learn what you need
So there is hope for young people
Yes, and non-college kids don't get their dicks chopped off. So it's also less risky. Imagine going to a college with high hopes of getting a good job, but instead of getting a good job you get your penis chopped off.
The same point it has always been, indoctrination.
To teach that inflation is good for you
Waste of time
get rid of H1Bs and we wouldn't have that problem, companies will get cheap labor anyway they can. Don't believe the not enough, under qualified or AI(this one at least not yet) they feed you. Its just cover to off shore or H1B visa anything they can.
You canât have a global reserve currency and not expect immigrants. Moreover, the exploitation of H1B visas is that youâre bound to stay in the company for a long time, regardless of your preferences. This is something that citizens donât face.
I have worked with H1Bs my whole career so much so the large telecom company I worked was fined for having too many. I have spoke to HR people who will actually talk about how the system is abused so all know all about H1Bs. Wow so you are saying there are perks to actually being a citizen in the country you work in .... go figure.
đ I didnât mean it that way. Actually, Iâm pretty thankful for all the rights one has as an immigrant in this country, but before you throw the baby with the bathwater, imagine how Native Americans feel here.
oh one of those, white people don't have any claim to where they are from right? Is that your view? If so and you are in the states no one is stopping you from leaving and none of the others who think the US is so evil. Just leave pretty simple and go to another country you feel did everything right and when you find that one let me know.
Unless youâre native american, neither white, nor brown nor black people get to complain about legal form of immigration here in the states, be it H1B, PR, F1, L1 or anyâŚ
And as I said, you canât have a global reserve currency and not have an immigration issue.
That is a really bad argument đ
Because the unemployment rate is currently low and we are at âfull employmentâ so both college grads and non college grades have the same low unemployment. Do you see how in the not so distant past when unemployment was higher there was a wider gap and as the unemployment fell the lines converged. Next recession you will see the lines widen again. Find a data source with more than one recession in it.
That literally makes no sense
The job market is so darn strong that people with more education now have a higher unemployment rate??
Dude, you literally couldâve picked any other argument, including each one Bâs and it wouldâve made more sense đđđ
Try it this way, The economy has been doing well enough for long enough that people without colleges were able to get an unemployment rate in the same ballpark as people without college degrees. Do you see on the graph how the numbers are far apart when the numbers are big, but the lines get closer together when the numbers are small? I would also suspect that the wage rate of those employed with college degrees vs not, are still different. You asked in your OP what is the value, Iâm telling you. When overall unemployment rises from a recession the lines will seperate and it will reflect it being easier to get a job with a degree than without. If you work for an employer to find a worker and you have 1000 applicants to go through (in a recession higher unemployment so many people looking for jobs) and they all look the same to you, are you going to throw out those without degrees first? Yes. Itâs an employers market. What if itâs been a long time since a recession and there are fewer people looking for jobs, so in your next job opening you only get 10 applications, are you going to throw out all applications without a degree? No. Itâs a workers market. You are too focused on some data points right at where we are in the present, I would guess we are entering a recession soon (tarrifs, etc) and the jobs that ârequireâ degrees are being shedded first so you are seeing this moment where the unemployment is rising among those with degrees. Not to mention you are directly seeing 1) federal government purge (probably degrees) 2) AI impact (probably degrees) plus random noise in the data that could make it appear closer of further depending on how it zigs and zags. I hope that helps, have a good day.
There is no point now
Going to college still gives young men the best chance to get into politics and change the world for the better