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The State is the antithesis of God.

kyle-moore 3mo ago

jacques ellul is always a good read

Kuba 3mo ago 💬 1

Without CC authority, the religion would fall apart with so many denominations fighting each other for supremacy and nobody holding the truth as a result of it.

How do you understand Jesus words: "you are Peter and on this rock I will build my church" ?

Anticipating the doubts of orthodox friends: Do you know that Greeks considered the bishop of Rome (pope) the most important one? Until it became politically unprofitable and they abandoned his authority. But maybe the resources I read were not genuine. Then pls forgive me my confidence.

"You don't need anyone between you and God". So what was the role of Moses in the Bible?

I partially agree with your statements though. God and decalogue above the nation and human emposed rules. Christianity teaches long time preference. But then: Cesar can keep his shitcoins and demand from us to pay him so he can maintain the state and order. But he will be judged by God on his rulings, the greater graces he recieved the bigger demands are expected from him. The free will, many times used wrongly

Lever 3mo ago 💬 2

Could you share some verses that point to the bible rejecting the state? IMO the bible is supporting monarchy with idealky the ruler obeying God. Mark 12:17 comes to mind.

I botched the reply lol. nostr:npub1lnms53w04qt742qnhxag5d6awy7nz6055flnmjkr6jg39hm86dlq7arrnt it's not anarchy, but monarchy 😅

The ruler of the Kingdom is Christ.

1 Samuel chapter 8

The people demanded a king because they rejected God as King.

That's more pro monarchy than pro anarchy IMO

8:22 “Listen to their voice,” the LORD said to Samuel. “Appoint a king for them.”

Wow are you a fucking Marxist or just retarded?

God literally says right there that the human king will enslave them.

Even if I'm retarded or a Marxist, there is still no argument for anarchism in sight.

God is the only King. That’s the fact of life. You can call it whatever you want.

Yes and no. John 18:36 and all that.

But, getting back to the original question, where does the Bible advocate for anarchism?

John 18:36 also contains that same message of the Kingdom.

If we are citizens or subjects of God’s kingdom, (the Kingdom of Truth) which is in heaven and not of this world… how could we also be loyal to earthly governments and false earthly kings?

A servant cannot serve two masters. He will love one and despise the other. If you don’t despise the state (false master) you will despise God.

Maybe you don’t understand what anarchism means- you can read Rothbard Anatomy of the State in 30 minutes if you haven’t already.

But you seem intent on not seeing the truth even though it’s right in front of you, so I will say good day sir.

Was David a false king? Solomon? How about emperor Constantine? Those mental gymnastics you're doing with "hey, maaan, you don't need to serve the king, because you can serve the Lord directly, maaan" are not in the Bible.

You clearly don’t want to see the truth today, that’s ok- God will reveal to you what you need to know.

This is such a ridiculous comment, acting like 1 Samuel 8 is “pro-monarchy” LMAO!

You either are a nihilistic Marxist or have the reading comprehension of an 8 year old.

Look, I get it. You want your space-era communism (anarchism is communism for the educated*) to be in the Bible and to be validated by God's word. The problem is - it isn't there. Now, you can either swallow your pride and approach God in humility, or invent your own god and scripture.

* Yes, I've read Rothbard and Konkin and the whole bunch. I used to be a fan. Not anymore.

Wow we must be speaking different languages.

God is the King, he has blessed me with mercy and forgiveness for my sins through His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, who rose from the dead, and gifted us his holy spirit to keep us until his return.

We are now servant stewards of his kingdom, following his will and proclaiming the gospel of love and truth until our time in this world is over.

How do we do that? We can look to the law that Christ fulfilled, alongside Christ’s direct instruction:

1. You shall have no other gods before me.

And “call no one father”

Matthew 23:9

That includes the state. Your allegiance to men’s folly puts your soul at risk, and contributes to the degeneracy and destruction of our once honorable “western civilization”

Maybe we have too different backgrounds and have to agree to disagree. You sound Protestant and I'm Orthodox. My country has its share of saint kings and obviously that was according to God's will. I doubt we'll get back there though. We're probably closer to seven trumpets territory. 😅

Ok that makes sense. Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s right that godly men should lead when called to that responsibility, and priest/fathers/pastors should exist- only without titles or pride or the unjust power of the wicked state tyranny that we have today.

From my perspective, I think Christian-anarchy is the proper way to describe the proper political attitude we should have today. It is totally non-violent. Like the apostles living under the Roman rule.

Although the term “anarchy” seems too evil for many. Maybe Voluntarist is better.

Christ be with you.

Kuba 3mo ago

Guys check out Paul: Romans 13:1-7