The already dieing EU is making even more stupid decisions:
EU parliament votes to ban new sales of petrol and diesel cars by 2035.
I often get the question from my friends why I want to leave this continent. Okay, this is one answer for that...
Source:
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1625464433513209857?t=pCxzwTK4UVhFVvhgOdSZDg&s=19
I don't think that is stupid...
Well those people who fell into the EV scam say this too. But that's the same bullshit than the man made climate change. This is a plot against poor people because with these rules they won't have the free choice of traveling. They can't afford buying one of those crazy expensive (Not green) EVs. Not to mention that even if they could buy one, it is impossible to make/charge all those EVs...
I'm interested to read more about this point of view. Do you have any research/paper/article to share?
About which part? Around 15 years ago I dated with the daughter of a leading engineer at the local Nuclear power plant. Sundays at the lunch we talked a lot about the future of transportation and local energy grids. Then the EVs in my country literally not existed only the phev versions like the Toyota Prius. He told me that even if it will be cheaper to make and sell future EVs it will be impossible to have a mainstream adoption. Why? Simply because if the significant part of big cities will use EVs when they plug in those the electric lines in the ground will just burn out. They were planned 50-70 years ago where the EVs were nowhere. Changing these lines takes decades, but till today it not even started.
15 years ago it might have been truth.
Still I'm not supporting EVs, I'm against buying oil and depending from other countries.
I have money enough to have a car but I'm fine with public transportation. Most of the countries I know in Europe you can live perfectly without any car.
I'm interested in the "EV scam".
Your story is interesting but is one point of view, 15 years ago; and does not seem to prove the scam point.
I would like to read a research with little more data and deep analysis.
Time will tell who will be right. But you won't read any thoroughly made study from the opposite side because those are not getting funded by the governments. Same with food...
Ok but which are the "opposition" arguments? I'm really not informed about that. I'm not pro EV, but I think elettricy will naturally be a more manageable resource and perhaps even when produced by fossils this will permit a more green outcome.
EV cars cost more? Like any other technology before it become mass addopted. The cited law is about 2035!
I just wrote an opposite argument 2 posts before. If you don't believe in it talk with a proper electrician engineer. They will tell you what kind of cable is needed to charge just 100 EV cars. Where I live it will be needed hundreds of those. If you're interested in the EVs you need to do your own research because no government will fund it. Let's not forget the child labor and the extra pollution/energy for making those metals too... Oh yes, it is in the far Africa...
You cited the opinion by one engineer, 15 yers old. I don't doubt his professionalism but it however a single point of view about what is a mere technical difficulty about move to EV. Call EV a "scam" implies your are demonizing all the people and the ideas about it, that is quite bold. It surely has his problems, like organize the distribution, the productive process and the wasting management, but they are not so different from the tecnology we use daily. I would try to have a more positive, even if critic, attitude. I will search and read more about this, thanks for the hint!
Note: I own a petrol car and I'm not in hurry to buy an EV. If I could I would move only by bicycle and public transports :)
I'm not talking about wasting less or more energy I'm just saying that it makes sense for European countries to stop depending on oil, diesel or whatever. To be less dependent in terms of economy. Look what happened with the gas prices, inflation is huge right now
Well for me it's not about climate change. I see that it's nice to not depend on resources your country doesn't have (petroleum), so economically speaking eletrc cars are a good strategy.
About those cars being expensive I think rich people (who want to have a car) can pay so that's fine. But for public transportation (trains powered by energy) we must have a better price / subsidy
Please pick up a copy of Fossil Futures by Alex Epstein, or watch some of his video discussions.
What you are supporting is completely impractical to implement on a global scale, and it does nothing but provide an opportunity to further restrict the freedoms of people.
I'm not proposing anything in global scale. The discussion started about Europe. For countries that have enough oil to burn I believe they should just use it
These green policies are a global issue, certainly not limited to Europe.
Oil has been essential to develop countries and bring them into the modern world we live in today. These policies wil rob under developed countries from having those same opportunities because they will at a developmental disadvantage by limiting their access to the same resources that 1st world nations used to get to where they are today.
It's the same as privately schooled individuals trying to abolish private education. Hypocrisy from privileged people.
The idea of solar or EVs solving any kind of crisis is entirely fictional, because:
1. There is no actual crisis
2. EVs are masking the non-issue by moving emissions from cars to the fossil fuels used to power them.
Scaling of renewables will not work due to the sheer amount of resources required to build out the infrastructure. Imagine if everyone had an EV, how do you think they would be powered without combustible energy sources?
Bit by bit, they are working to curtail our freedoms by bringing in nonsense policies, refusing to debate under the guise of 'settled science', and lying about the implications this would have.
If we support these policies, they will come back to bite us.
I completely agree with you!
Hey man can you please please please read my last post before replying?
My opinion is NOT about spending less resources or green energy. It's about having European economy less dependent on petroleum / oil.
I don't care if an EV will be less efficient or polute less or more.
I hope you understand (you don't have to agree) my point of view now.
I understand your point; countries that have a hard time accessing oil should have other options. I get that.
Less dependent on oil means that they would be more dependent on another energy source, and the only solutions being proposed are wind and solar. That's the issue I have with opposition to oil.
The only alternative that exists as a viable solution is nuclear, and last I checked, instead of building reactors, they are shutting them down.
Don't forget that even in the US the uranium last time I checked came from Russia related companies...
More reason to attempt to destabilize the region in order to gain some control over their resources.
Blowing up pipelines, stirring up conflicts that lead to innocent people losing their lives fighting in proxy wars just to maintain global control and keep profiting off of the lives of others. It's truly disgusting.
Exactly, but now they begin to act as the headless chicken. We need to live through this 1.5 years until the dems lose. The republicans are not much better (from an outsider point), but maybe they won't escalate this till the use of the Nukes. Sadly I can't say this about the current regime...
Policies don't rob anyone. People enforcing those policies do. It's important not to speak in euphemism. It's an unnecessary later on Nostr.
Well, yes, but I think you're being a little pedantic here. The people who push the policies will also want to enforce them.
My humble opinion is that no one should abridge your freedom, and that includes shutting down a company for years or forcing companies to make different products, nor should they tell you what not to do(Leaving aside how this will affect the economy or quality of life of millions of people.)
I advocate for freedom Bitcoin is freedom and nostr is freedom and that's why I'm here.
I completely agree with you!
Some of my uni students presented this in an exam and said it seems like a bad idea. Let us wait and see
