You are all missing the point, that if I am only adding 1 follower or fewer, per day, what is the experience like for most newbies?

The feedback you are getting from newbies is only from the 1%, or so, who stick around and are having a great time because gigantic npubs boosted their stuff, immediately, and they're adding followers at a record pace.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT THEY DID. ALL OF YOUR STUPID TIPS DON'T WORK; I DO THEM ALL, TO ZERO EFFECT.

IT IS EXCLUSIVELY AN ARTEFECT OF BEING RANDOMLY-SELECTED FOR A BOOST, BY SOMEONE WITH THOUSANDS OF FOLLOWERS. THERE IS A HANDFUL OF NPUBS EXCLUSIVELY DEFINING EVERYONE'S FEED.

#SurvivorshipBias is real.

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My take is that social media is not the use case for #nostr. It will likely be something with media that has some social and economic aspects.

the experience for newbie's is that we'd rather get a reply than a zap.

Yep. I also prefer a response over a like.

exactly~!

maybe most people aren't looking for conversations..?

I think most people just want validation and attention, my dude. That's why having a vibrant IRL social life is of utmost importance! Social media definitely seems to have it's uses but they're very limited.

social media is great for finding people with similar interests, but it's difficult to do that here at the moment.

The accounts that have really high follower counts, have a lot of fake followers n e ways…

Yes, but they also have a lot of real ones. Just that the percentage fake is higher.

Gotta love the consequences of having the dead Internet theory play out in real time lol

Yeah, feed went dead.

Went to 400 steadily and then basically slowed to a trickle and then stopped.

thank you for sharing, I appreciate it! noticed a few problems myself

Just a few weeks ago you said that people shouldn't use follow lists. You even nuked your follow list and used nip51 lists instead.

Now you conplain about a metric based on these follow lists.

I think it depends on objectives

I'm not quite a newbie but I probably fit the profile of 'rando' account in that I'm not a public figure nor a Nostr / Bitcoin dev

I follow 395 ppl because I like who they are and I value what they post

Not for engagement farming

I have ~ 265 followers in return

I'm quite happy with that ratio, and the ratio of interactions to followers

It's better than it ever was on Xitter

And it's better than Bluesky so far

More importantly, when I interact with my social network it's not buried by some stupid engagement algorithm

That allows me to build meaningful social connections, which is my objective here

Quality not quantity

I post less original content than you do

If I followed 21 ppl that to me means there are 21 ppl whose thoughts I value quite highly

So I'd expect a level of engagement proportionate

If I was a public figure or if I posted engagement bait, particularly oriented toward the dominant topics of the network, I wouldn't be surprised to get a much higher engagement ratio

But a lot of the engagement those ppl receive is low quality

I doubt public figures like Jack and Lyn actually want that kind of engagement

Bluesky is much worse for engagement, particularly for replies

I see devs both within and outside the Bluesky team get the same or less engagement as you do, with 2-5x the number of followers on a network with ~ 1,000x the number of users

The chat thing... that's what I'd expect I think. If ppl are using a platform designed for group chat they'll return to that. Nostr native chat options are getting better tho.

So what are your objectives and how do you aim to achieve them? I think building a 'large' number of followers for anyone who doesn't fall into the public figure / engagement farming categories is going to be difficult in a social network that is bootstrapping.