Literally anyone that's saying vote for trump and i tell them to fuck off with their statist bullshit immediately goes well then you want biden.
Aka vikingo.
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I'm inclined to think voting for whomever is most aligned with our goals is more likely to help achieve them than not voting and hoping that will make a difference.
I vote with the clear understanding that the one I vote for will not fix things and we still need to create an alternative system and abandon the current.
There will come a point where voting in its current form will become redundant but we are not there yet.
I don't consent. Voting signals consent.
I may have to go along (with laws) to get along for the moment, but I'm not about to take a bunch of action (like voting) that signals that I am voluntarily participating in the system.
It's _especially_ bad when the politicians start dangling attractive carrots in front of your face. By voting in that scenario, you're capitulating "Well I guess if I **agree** with the state in this instance then it's not so bad..." No, fuck that.
That's how they play the permanent duopoly game. And keep the population rivalrous and divided, insuring the state and the current duopoly is never shaken.
You can bow before the state or die in it's prisons / the street to it's enforcers. If you want otherwise, you must use enough force to prevent it.
The use of force is by it's nature a governmental action, since the only thing governments can actually do is use force. So, small government, big, whatever it is, remaining free demands that you act to control a government. That's not what voting is anymore, but it is what it was intended to be.
Bitcoiners who fail to understand this will either be consumed by the state, or be able to shelter under the protection of bitcoiners who do. Bitcoiners who do not merely pay the miners to use force to secure the network through PoW, but also pay soldiers to use force against any who would violate their freedoms, and vote through their wallet or their ballot over what those freedoms even are.
The carrot is poisoned. Everything falls apart once people catch onto the fact they can vote to rob their neighbor.
I'm with Ayn Rand on this one. No smaller minority than the individual and laws are meant to protect the individual from the majority.
That's fair. The approach is too puritanical to be practical, in my eyes, but I respect it.
In the UK election. I will not vote as it is pointless. In the US I would vote. It will very likely be easier to build a btc based parallel economy which we need under Kennedy or Trump as opposed to any version of Biden.
Votes are anonymous and as such whether you voted and how is only known to you. My vote does not mean I agree with anything, it is a gamble, a bet that one version of govt will be more helpful on the way to divorcing the state than another.
We disagree about the feasibility and likelihood of a presidential candidate facilitating a BTC economy. But that's fine.
If you stay home on election day, that's not anonymous. You couldn't have voted if you didn't show up. I'd rather send that message.
I am not saying any presidential candidate will help us build a BTC economy, only that some will obstruct it less.
Even that is subjective at best. The entire point of a governments entire existence hinges upon the validity of private property violations. Thus being it a NECESSITY in order for the thing to exist its a distortion on EVERY human beings economic choices. So to say that X politician is going to disturb less is like also saying that this poison will kill me less slowly so ill take that one instead of just stopping the ingestion of the poison altogether.
I wish that not voting would automatically take me out of the system. It does not.
we may also get some indirect proof about the relevance of elections, if the coming one is cancelled 'due to a cyberattack'
If elections are useful for endorsing the system and are no threat, they will not get cancelled.
I will eat my hat if the election is cancelled due to a cyber attack