Covid mRNA unequivocally didn’t save lives on net, especially not in total human years. Millions dead globally for mRNA, either quickly from stroke/heart attack or more slowly from cancer (SV40, DNA plasmids, thymus/immune system damage, etc). Tens of millions more disabled. Check the insurance company data (Ed Dowd), massive excess mortality among the *young*. Not to mention every single person who got mRNA is at risk of permanent damage to their myocardium and pericardium, which impairs the quality of their lives and shaves off time at the end of their lives.
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It will be hard to know for sure. Vaccines, even mRNA, adjust two components: memory cells and anti-bodies. Anti-bodies are short lived (6 monhts in case of COVID) and act fast when the treat re-emerges. Memory cells are slower, but last your whole life time. In theory, just a single injection builds up enough memory cells to change how your body react to Covid-like viruses. Same if you get infected. You would need a much bigger viral load to take you to the ER.
Since billions of people took the vaccine, multiple times, plus millions of people got infected, this exposure could have had a massive impact on visits to the ER and further deaths because of ER overcrowding. What we know for sure is that the ER usage due to COVID significantly dropped over time. That could have been the vaccines, infections, virus getting weaker, etc. But in the end, we will never know. And the comparison you made doesn't take that unkown into account.
The change in prevalence of specific cancers only occurring in the injected is where the signal lies from what I can tell.
LOL from "millions of deaths!!" To "hunting for the signal*
Ive said before, IMO by August 2023, at least 17m deaths from the injections. No point having that discussion with people who havent personally verified so happy to point out the signals worth looking at. The sad thing is this becomes polarised. There's multiple pathological pathways and that includes proteinopathies which include COVID itself. Whatever
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It's pretty obvious at this point the vaccines were targeted to eliminate swaths of the population. Either quickly or slowly.
The fact that they *still* want into inject kids with zero evidence or cause for concern shows it never was about health.
We were played.
It’s like you pasted my reply into ChatGPT and said “respond with appeal to ignorance”. Maybe you got some doses and have delusional Sunk Cost.
This is ludicrous. There have been like 50 deaths that have been attributed to COVID-19 vaccines, out of *billions* administered.
AND YOU BELIEVE THESE STATE TOOLS? NGMI
I believe multiple scientific studies that have been done on the topic, and the fact that Google overwhelmingly points towards the answer I cited as the correct one. I would believe any LLM that would almost certainly read all of the information available and give the same answer.
I believe that if there were *literally millions of people* dying in a way that could be clearly tied back to a specific vaccine product, there would be widespread scientific reports about it.
THE SCIENTISTS ARE BOUGHT AND PAID FOR, JUST LIKE THE GOVT AND THE NEWS. HAVE YOU NOT BEEN FOLLOWING? HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THE EXCESS DEATH IN YOUNG PEOPLE. ITS SO OBVIOUS
YOUR BLIND TRUST IN GOOGLE AND AI ACTUALLY FRIGHTENS ME
BOO LOL
LOL "the scientists are bought and paid for." Science is done by 100,000's of people all over the world, publishing in journals and sharing data. It's one the most decentralized forms of knowledge production we have. I'm a scientist and I'm not "bought and paid for" by whatever globalist conspiracy boogey you're imagining.
Thank you for calling out and refuting conspiracist BS. Following you.
MANY DOCTORS SPOKE OUT BUT WERE SILENCED, SLANDERED, AND ARE NOW BEING VINDICATED BY THE TRUTH. THEY DONT DO IT IN SECRET, BILL GATES PLAINLY SAID WE NEED TO REDUCE POPULATION. WELL THEY DID. THX IN PART TO FUCKING RETARDED SHEEP LIKE YOU TWO
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You know your argument doesn't become correct when you type it in all caps right?
YEAH, I DID KNOW THAT. DID YOU KNOW THAT YOU WOULDNT HAVE RESPONDED TO ME ANYWAY, EVEN IF I HAD TYPED IT NORMALLY?
YOU KEEP POSTING BUT SAYING NOTHING
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I am a scientist and no one is buying me. I almost wish they were. My lab is struggling to retain funding like all of my collaborators, and any other lab I've interacted with. You might be referring to a very small minority of labs in very specific politicized fields of research. The reality is the vast majority of researchers are just trying to do research.
THEY FUCKIN MASS MURDERED PPL. WAKE THE FUCK UP YALL
Great, a YouTube. Anyone publish in a peer-reviewed journal with data in textual form?
Scientific journals are gatekept. You’re not getting published unless you arrive at a conclusion that funders find acceptable.
If by "gatekeeping" you mean "peer review," yes, that's the point. Also, what "funders"? The journal isn't funded by the same people as whomever is funding the research...
TBF scientific fields can fall into groupthink, prioritization based on funding priorities, etc... And this can do things like preventing novel ideas from coming to fruition before they should, etc. That's a debate to have "on the margins" there and there is robust discussion about it in the scientific world.
But "millions die from COVID vaccine" is as much of a BS claim as "the earth is flat" or "the sky is green." There are many aspects of COVID revisionism that I'm all for discussing, lab-leak, the efficacy of lockdowns, etc. But this is Lizard people talk.
Fuck you, I almost died after getting that vaccine. Fuck you fuck you fuck you, I genuinely hope you die, you piece of shit
"attributed" is doing some heavy lifting there
It's called "using precise language", which is necessary when you're doing actual science.
Or are you suggesting that we shouldn't use causal relationships when trying to total the number of deaths from the COVID vaccine? are these "Quantum deaths"?
I'm not complaining about the precision of the language. In fact, I think it's useful that you were so precise.
We don't know how many people died or were disabled by covid vaccines. We only know how many deaths "were attributed" to them.
That's a passive use of a verb, so the important question if we want to make a true cost/benefit analysis is to understand who did the attributing and how that attributing was done (or not done, as the case may be).
One way around this is to look at expected death curves before and after the vaccine. The problem is that there are so many confounding variables (covid itself, the terrible covid hospitals protocols, lockdowns, etc).
We really don't know how many people died or were disabled by the shots.
Yeah okay sure, by that logic though, we don't know how many people get killed or disabled because there's an ion storm on Saturn or something.
So just like I'm not going to presume that Mercury in retrograde is going to cause me to lose money in the stock market, there's no reason to presume that there are any more deaths from the covid vaccine then what can be *actually* be attributed to it.
that was pretty much my point - it's hard to attribute the increased deaths after covid to the vaccine because there were other government measures that probably also contributed to increased deaths and disability.
So, since we're not going to speculate on those other contributing factors, let's go back to your original statement about how many deaths are *actually* attributed to the shots:
How were those attributions made?
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Listen up.
Start diving deeper.
Bust out a calculator. Start doing the math. Most incidents are either under reported, or lied about purposefully to skew the numbers and protect a broken medical system from liability.
If this is only 1% of the real numbers. What do you think is the actual truth?
Yeah I had an "adverse effect"... felt low energy for about 24 hours. Then it was fine.
big leap from there to "Millions dead"...
I am a psych, in my practice alone I had 5 clients reporting unexpected family deaths immediately following covid vaccines. All 5 clients were too frightened to report and were deeply disturbed. The number of deaths has been massively unreported. Dig deeper, there are dozens of reputable reports from all over the world with powerfully disturbing data
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Agreed, and sometimes we need to allow our left hemisphere dominance to take a breath and draw on right hemisphere capacities, the other half of our brain that scans sensory inputs for threats and opportunities, to inform us and guide further action. How amazing are our brains and how intriguing that they have a split down the middle with only the corpus callosum allowing connection.
They harmed sooo many people. Threaten us and treated us like insects!