Overtargeting is a communication strategy that political parties use to ensure the target population complies.

During COVID, governments required universal vaccination, even though the primary benefits (preventing ER visits) were for elders and the immunocompromised. The goal was to make elders think, "If even healthy people need this, I better get mine quickly." This tactic worked and probably did saved lives (we will never know), but at the cost of widespread distrust in vaccine recommendations.

The Trump administration is doing the same with immigrants. By overtargeting — jailing and deporting people for saying the wrong thing (and tattoos) — they get everybody else to fear for their actions and fall in line, regardless of whether they have done anything wrong or not. It's the same story all over again.

Overtargeting is a lie. And just like any lie, it exchanges short-term results for long-term trust. Once you break that trust, there is no easy way back.

Personally, I don't feel very safe criticizing the administration right now — a feeling I never thought possible in this country.

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What are you afraid the administration is going to do to you?

It doesn't matter, does it? The fear is all that counts.

The government is supposed to fear the people. Speak up or lose your rights.

Call your congressman. File a FOIA. Go local

Overacting works of course, you yourself want the wallets to provide you with the transaction history to be taxed correctly.

Don't criticize something when you yourself are a victim, better invest that time in waking up and realizing that taxes are theft and that you should not facilitate that theft.

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As an immigrant, I feel you

It was not safe to criticized democrats and wokes either. Maybe people did not get arrested, but, get canceled. Trumpism is a reaction.

Damn .. you're conclusion is super alarming

Someone I know got rejected at USA's borders for criticizing this administration through "private" messages (meta's messenger)

what..? did that person have to hand over the telephone before entering the country?

Yes the phone has been examined; if you want a similar story that has been made public even more recently with a french researcher:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/20/world/europe/us-france-scientist-entry-trump-messages.html

And without the paywall:

https://web.archive.org/web/20250326185408/https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/20/world/europe/us-france-scientist-entry-trump-messages.html

jeez, private convo… incredible.

It is, indeed..

Covid mRNA unequivocally didn’t save lives on net, especially not in total human years. Millions dead globally for mRNA, either quickly from stroke/heart attack or more slowly from cancer (SV40, DNA plasmids, thymus/immune system damage, etc). Tens of millions more disabled. Check the insurance company data (Ed Dowd), massive excess mortality among the *young*. Not to mention every single person who got mRNA is at risk of permanent damage to their myocardium and pericardium, which impairs the quality of their lives and shaves off time at the end of their lives.

It will be hard to know for sure. Vaccines, even mRNA, adjust two components: memory cells and anti-bodies. Anti-bodies are short lived (6 monhts in case of COVID) and act fast when the treat re-emerges. Memory cells are slower, but last your whole life time. In theory, just a single injection builds up enough memory cells to change how your body react to Covid-like viruses. Same if you get infected. You would need a much bigger viral load to take you to the ER.

Since billions of people took the vaccine, multiple times, plus millions of people got infected, this exposure could have had a massive impact on visits to the ER and further deaths because of ER overcrowding. What we know for sure is that the ER usage due to COVID significantly dropped over time. That could have been the vaccines, infections, virus getting weaker, etc. But in the end, we will never know. And the comparison you made doesn't take that unkown into account.

The change in prevalence of specific cancers only occurring in the injected is where the signal lies from what I can tell.

LOL from "millions of deaths!!" To "hunting for the signal*

Ive said before, IMO by August 2023, at least 17m deaths from the injections. No point having that discussion with people who havent personally verified so happy to point out the signals worth looking at. The sad thing is this becomes polarised. There's multiple pathological pathways and that includes proteinopathies which include COVID itself. Whatever

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It's pretty obvious at this point the vaccines were targeted to eliminate swaths of the population. Either quickly or slowly.

The fact that they *still* want into inject kids with zero evidence or cause for concern shows it never was about health.

We were played.

It’s like you pasted my reply into ChatGPT and said “respond with appeal to ignorance”. Maybe you got some doses and have delusional Sunk Cost.

This is ludicrous. There have been like 50 deaths that have been attributed to COVID-19 vaccines, out of *billions* administered.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8875435/

AND YOU BELIEVE THESE STATE TOOLS? NGMI

I believe multiple scientific studies that have been done on the topic, and the fact that Google overwhelmingly points towards the answer I cited as the correct one. I would believe any LLM that would almost certainly read all of the information available and give the same answer.

I believe that if there were *literally millions of people* dying in a way that could be clearly tied back to a specific vaccine product, there would be widespread scientific reports about it.

THE SCIENTISTS ARE BOUGHT AND PAID FOR, JUST LIKE THE GOVT AND THE NEWS. HAVE YOU NOT BEEN FOLLOWING? HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THE EXCESS DEATH IN YOUNG PEOPLE. ITS SO OBVIOUS

YOUR BLIND TRUST IN GOOGLE AND AI ACTUALLY FRIGHTENS ME

BOO LOL

LOL "the scientists are bought and paid for." Science is done by 100,000's of people all over the world, publishing in journals and sharing data. It's one the most decentralized forms of knowledge production we have. I'm a scientist and I'm not "bought and paid for" by whatever globalist conspiracy boogey you're imagining.

Thank you for calling out and refuting conspiracist BS. Following you.

MANY DOCTORS SPOKE OUT BUT WERE SILENCED, SLANDERED, AND ARE NOW BEING VINDICATED BY THE TRUTH. THEY DONT DO IT IN SECRET, BILL GATES PLAINLY SAID WE NEED TO REDUCE POPULATION. WELL THEY DID. THX IN PART TO FUCKING RETARDED SHEEP LIKE YOU TWO

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You know your argument doesn't become correct when you type it in all caps right?

DAMN YOU JUST GONNA POST THE SAME SHIT BACK AT ME? ARE YOU A RETARDED FED? LOL. THE VAX IS DEGRADING YOUR BRAIN FASTER THAN EXPECTED. RIP

YEAH, I DID KNOW THAT. DID YOU KNOW THAT YOU WOULDNT HAVE RESPONDED TO ME ANYWAY, EVEN IF I HAD TYPED IT NORMALLY?

YOU KEEP POSTING BUT SAYING NOTHING

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I am a scientist and no one is buying me. I almost wish they were. My lab is struggling to retain funding like all of my collaborators, and any other lab I've interacted with. You might be referring to a very small minority of labs in very specific politicized fields of research. The reality is the vast majority of researchers are just trying to do research.

THEY FUCKIN MASS MURDERED PPL. WAKE THE FUCK UP YALL

Great, a YouTube. Anyone publish in a peer-reviewed journal with data in textual form?

Scientific journals are gatekept. You’re not getting published unless you arrive at a conclusion that funders find acceptable.

If by "gatekeeping" you mean "peer review," yes, that's the point. Also, what "funders"? The journal isn't funded by the same people as whomever is funding the research...

TBF scientific fields can fall into groupthink, prioritization based on funding priorities, etc... And this can do things like preventing novel ideas from coming to fruition before they should, etc. That's a debate to have "on the margins" there and there is robust discussion about it in the scientific world.

But "millions die from COVID vaccine" is as much of a BS claim as "the earth is flat" or "the sky is green." There are many aspects of COVID revisionism that I'm all for discussing, lab-leak, the efficacy of lockdowns, etc. But this is Lizard people talk.

YOU ARE BLIND.

yeah ok. enjoy your modern technological society, brought to you by The Scientific Method.

ENJOY VAIDS FAGGOT

love you too bro 💕

Fuck you, I almost died after getting that vaccine. Fuck you fuck you fuck you, I genuinely hope you die, you piece of shit

"attributed" is doing some heavy lifting there

It's called "using precise language", which is necessary when you're doing actual science.

Or are you suggesting that we shouldn't use causal relationships when trying to total the number of deaths from the COVID vaccine? are these "Quantum deaths"?

I'm not complaining about the precision of the language. In fact, I think it's useful that you were so precise.

We don't know how many people died or were disabled by covid vaccines. We only know how many deaths "were attributed" to them.

That's a passive use of a verb, so the important question if we want to make a true cost/benefit analysis is to understand who did the attributing and how that attributing was done (or not done, as the case may be).

One way around this is to look at expected death curves before and after the vaccine. The problem is that there are so many confounding variables (covid itself, the terrible covid hospitals protocols, lockdowns, etc).

We really don't know how many people died or were disabled by the shots.

Yeah okay sure, by that logic though, we don't know how many people get killed or disabled because there's an ion storm on Saturn or something.

So just like I'm not going to presume that Mercury in retrograde is going to cause me to lose money in the stock market, there's no reason to presume that there are any more deaths from the covid vaccine then what can be *actually* be attributed to it.

that was pretty much my point - it's hard to attribute the increased deaths after covid to the vaccine because there were other government measures that probably also contributed to increased deaths and disability.

So, since we're not going to speculate on those other contributing factors, let's go back to your original statement about how many deaths are *actually* attributed to the shots:

How were those attributions made?

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Listen up.

Start diving deeper.

https://openvaers.com/

Bust out a calculator. Start doing the math. Most incidents are either under reported, or lied about purposefully to skew the numbers and protect a broken medical system from liability.

If this is only 1% of the real numbers. What do you think is the actual truth?

Yeah I had an "adverse effect"... felt low energy for about 24 hours. Then it was fine.

big leap from there to "Millions dead"...

I am a psych, in my practice alone I had 5 clients reporting unexpected family deaths immediately following covid vaccines. All 5 clients were too frightened to report and were deeply disturbed. The number of deaths has been massively unreported. Dig deeper, there are dozens of reputable reports from all over the world with powerfully disturbing data

But CorReLaTiOn DoEsNt MeAn CaUsAtIoN

Agreed, and sometimes we need to allow our left hemisphere dominance to take a breath and draw on right hemisphere capacities, the other half of our brain that scans sensory inputs for threats and opportunities, to inform us and guide further action. How amazing are our brains and how intriguing that they have a split down the middle with only the corpus callosum allowing connection.

They harmed sooo many people. Threaten us and treated us like insects!

Fuck trump

Possible circa 2015. Why I wanted nostr to take off pre 2024 election

I am an immigrant and have absolutely no fear of criticizing this administration. However, I do have concerns about showing support for this admin. because of the reactions from the looney left. They don't seem to be afraid of committing physical attacks.

Wait are you saying the **left** is more violent‽ 😆

Ok bro

https://youtu.be/7MaYymyciG0

THEYRE BOTH VIOLENT, BUT THE LEFT IS RETARDED TOO. LOL.

Go big or go home.

If you dont say death to america or critisize israel and you are a citizen then i think you are safe

.... and that's a good thing? we don't allow people to criticize Israel in america?

No its not a good thing, it just seems to be the way it is right now.

START WORKING OUT MORE AND DOING SOME MARTIAL ARTS, YOU WILL FEEL LESS SCARED I PROMISE

I disagree with this. Someone being deported is already there illegally. The underlying crime has already been committed. It’s like saying we’re going to vaccinate you while you’re already sick (using your analogy). The tattoos and their actions are aggravating circumstances after the fact. Ask yourself this: why aren’t their home countries welcoming their own citizens with open arms? 🤷

Why don’t these countries want their citizens back?

There is a concept up here in Canada that the Indians that come here are not well off because of they were well off they would have stayed in India.

Being poor doesn't give anyone the right to travel to a country and enter illegally. Why would these countries want criminals back? Same thing happened in El Salvador before Bukele which saw a rise in Gangs like MS13.

Hi vitor 😉🤟🏴‍☠️ Overtargeting is a double-edged sword effective in the short term but corrosive to long-term trust. Once people see that compliance was driven by fear rather than reason, skepticism takes root and institutions lose credibility. We’ve seen this pattern repeatedly, from public health to immigration enforcement. The real question is: how do we rebuild trust after it’s been broken?

i think you meant illegal immigrants. as legal immigrants are welcome and encouraged.

Lol, no.

What they're doing to "legal" immigrants:

https://youtu.be/7-fSpi7ZHoQ

legal in quotations indicates propaganda.

discounted.

what? she is on a student visa. legal, at least until Little Marco arbitrarily decides that she's not with the stroke of a pen....

(butterfly meme) is this rule of law??

you know nothing but what the corrupt media tells you. youre not even grounded enough to have a real discussion with. go get vaccinated again and burn a tesla to “save democracy”

why can't you just stick to the topic at hand and acknowledge the USG is surveiling students legally here on student visas and using the threat of deportation as a chilling effect on speaking out against a genocidal apartheid regime

You mean a foreign agitator? Being here on a student visa is a privilege not a right. Just like a driver license. If you come to the US to promote illegal protests and hatred towards a religious class then you should be removed.

"Foreign agitator" she wrote an OP-ED, dude.

Nothing was proven about "illegal protests". And so I guess criticism of Israel is "hatred towards a religious class"?

'MURICA

I bet if she wrote an op-ed criticizing Iran and it was seen as criticism of Muslims he wouldn't care.

she lied on her visa app.

hes a propagandist

Source?

Vaccines harmed a LOT of people, was an absolute catastrophe, the results of which are not remotely all in. Deporting millions of illegals and sweeping up *some* legal people is not in the same ballpark, or, to quote Pulp Fiction, isn’t even the same sport. It’s more like prosecuting crime knowing that you will prosecute (and convict) some innocent people.

Every legal person deported is an injustice, obviously, and they should offer a remedy in those cases but apples and oranges.

Feel free to rip Trump for his scam coin and deporting people for protected speech on campuses all you like — nothing will happen to you. There are wine moms on Facebook calling him Hitler every day for nine years.

The CCP is looking less like an adversary and more like a role model now

I have a very different perspective

Dont love Trump much but securing the border has been great from my perspective as I don’t want the US to become a third world country

Also loving DOGE, badly needed

and I criticize trumps mistakes probably daily, no one is perfect

Also in the US you can have guns so you should feel safer criticizing the government here more than almost any other country

You’re welcome to leave although I doubt you will

Great, let them break the trust completely so people will finally see the governments for what they are: a bunch of thieves.