Gm. Thinking about replacing my Ledger and Trezor devices with Bitcoin-only devices. Any recommendations? Iβve heard good things about Jade, but no real leaning. #bitcoin #asknostr
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Heard good things about coldcard
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Coldcard
Blockstream jade
Easy on the pockets and very simple to setup
jade is kind of junky. Form factor seems cheap. Little dial is very cheap. Screen is cheap. I've got 2 of them and I'm very unimpressed.
For my money Coldcard is hands down the best HW wallet I've ever tried, and I've tried many. It's the best engineering both in hardware and software. By far my favorite.
I should mention I use the mk4. The big one with the full keyboard is totally overkill for me.
jade my favorite of those devices, and ive used them all. but a trezor loaded with bitcoin only firmware about just as good, imo. no need to buy a new one unless you just want to try it out.
I ended up going in this direction for now, you made a solid point. I'll probably pick up a Jade or two in the future as a backup device, and may look into some of the more advanced hardware wallets too. But I wanted to get my sats out of the hands of my Ledger-held seed phrase.... just in case. And hardware delivery times to my house are unfortunately really slow.
makes sense!
I have also a Ledger (Nano S) and Trezor One for a long time, then I got for cheap a Keepkey but it's support was discontinued. Then I did build a Specter DIY, it's fun to use but it's not really a wallet, it's just s signing device, you must load your private key at each use, not ideal to make proper backup in a safe place and impossible to store in tempered proof bag to prove that no one did copy your keys. There is an upgrade that use security cards to alloe usage as a real wallet storing keys in a secure manner but it's hard to get the parts and super expensive.
Then I did test Bitbox2 Bitcoin Only edition, it's a marvellous device, with a lot of functionality and safety features, especially for multisign.
And recently I got a Jade as a gift, it's a really nice and economical wallet, relatively easy to use (thus I still find the Trezor to be the easiest of all). But it has no secure element, the keys are stored on a standard chip but encrypted with a strong random key that is stored on Blockstream servers (or your own server, but then it must not be in the same physical local as your Jade, like not on your Umbrel device running in the same place).
So you must trust the server to not allow brut forcing of your PIN.
Also I find it not so convenient to enter the passphrase on the device each time you use it if you use a wallet with a passphrase. You really need to use a passphrase you know by heart and the longer the more cumbersome it is to enter it with the small wheel and one button, so you might be tempted to use a shorter and weaker passphrase.
For everyday use and normal people it's still quite a good wallet for a good price, but if you are serious, find a real wallet with secure element.
I would recommand Trezor Safe 3 Bitcoin only for single sign wallet, which is just slightly more expensive than Jade or if you can afford Bitbox2, for the more advance funcionality and safety features, especially for multisign wallets, they explain on their blog why it's better than others for multisign.
Coldcard MK4 could be a good (even more expensive) alternative of Bitbox2, also with a lot of safety features but I didn't try it yet.
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Coldcard FTW with a proper steel plate for seed backup. They have all sorts of fun colors now. Are you doing multi-sig?