Why do people install Linux in 10 year old machines to evaluate? Of course the experience is going to suck...

Seriously. Stop setting things up for failure.

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Try the same thing with Windows at least. Compare them.

Why would the experience suck? It usually works quite well... drivers supported, etc.

Old monitor, old graphics cards which are slow, not enough memory to run a modern browser fast enough...

Then they compare the old stuff with their state of the art machine and then complain it's slower.

Works for me

What? Old machines run great with Linux. I install Linux and then use the machine for 10 years with no degraded experience.

People compare their 4090 GPUs with a 10 year old crap and of course give up immediately.

are these people in the room with us right now?

šŸ˜†, I almost exclusively run my Linux distros on 10 year old+ hardware and they run just peachy.

Currently using Pop!_OS 22.04 LTS on a laptop and desktop that each meet that criteria. They both run great.

Yeah, they run great. But they completely suck if people are used to a windows laptop from this year. Graphics and memory alone already make everything extremely slow in comparison.

Gotcha, I don't do anything that maxes these out so my systems generally cruise on old hardware.

I suppose use cases requiring robust compute wouldn't be served well by repurposing old hardware paired with a Linux distro.

To your original point, better to evaluate a Linux OS on hardware that matches or exceeds the demand of whatever load you put on it regularly.

Linux is more efficient than Windows but it's not magic.

Yeah, I think every person that tests on older hardware than what they are used to gets disappointed by the experience. We should simply not encourage that behavior. They need to test with their current machines.

install lynnuckz on aged machine that just expired me winblows. nothing accidental. just electronics not letting go to waste.

People compare their 4090s with a 10 year old crap and of course give up immediately.

Linux mint xfce runs great on 10 year old computers, the higher versions of Linux mint are slow on old computers

People compare their 4090s with a 10 year old crap and of course give up immediately.

Chimera and Steam test my hardware daily

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...all my machines are about 10 years old by now, or its tech inside is at least from that era.

But then again I've switched to Linux about 15 years ago, so I'm quite used to it by now āœŒļøšŸ˜…

I saw your later comment about "the people" having a 1 year old Windows machine being their main, so that would be an unfair comparison.

It doesn't matter if it is unfair. People are checking out on old stuff and giving up right away because it is so slow. Everybody told them it should be fast, but it is not. It will never get close to the speed of modern machines.

I wouldn't say that Linux will make their old machines fast, I would say it make them unable again.

I didn't say this before but conversation and setting realistic expectations is what you ideally want.

If the experience is going to suck, depents on your expectations.

For a power user with a specific usecase Linux can not get more out of the hardware you have.

For the big part (me included): we can do things on cheap hardware in a workable and safe way.

Runs just fine on my laptops from the stone age.

Yeah, they run great. But they completely suck if people are used to a windows laptop or PC from this year. Graphics and memory alone already make everything extremely slow in comparison.

Not if you're refurbishing or reviving an old, unbearably slow windows system or a road-ended Mac, and suddenly discover it's still a usable computer. Being born in a humble environment is sometimes a privilege

depends if you're evaluating Linux or the 10 year old machine.

My node runs on a 13 year old i7. It also doubles up as HTPC. RUNS PERFECT

You tell me

I had this in the past but a different version.

Linux was marketed to me as being super light weight. I liked the idea and went with the light DE's I ended up finding very lackluster.

Then I figured that if windows was allowed to be heavy I should allow Linux to be. So I tried KDE and loved that much more. And in the end KDE was also pretty light.