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What do you think?
A proof of work post requires the phone to spend some energy to find a specific hash before each post/like/report/etc.
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Proof of Battery? 😭
Bad idea. People don't like battery draining apps on their phone.
I don't really want draining my smartphone battery
I doubt that the excessive spam is being sent from smartphones or other Android devices, or is it?
Qual a vantagem, combater spam?
Requiring PoW for a like or a zap seems a bit excessive. Now, for a new post/reply... 👀
For what purpose? If rate limiting, who not simply enforce time delays that escalate with volume. 1s,2s,3s,5s,7s,10s and resets after 1min of no posts
No. Adoption and openness to developing countries and access to those who are unbanked and marginalized should be made as easy and free as possible! IMO.
Something like this demanding more data, power etc makes the solution further away.
I like the idea behind this but not the result.
Not necessarily for liking, zapping etc, but replying only?
What's a use case? I don't think more battery draining is something I want on social media, but maybe I just can't see what it would be good for.
will local db be implemented soon?
my phone batter is already dying when browsing nostr. RIP when activating PoW
Can be optional, its good to have the option in case pow it's needed
Awesome!
Post&repost, YES
Likes, idk, want liking to be quick right?
Seems fine to me. I can imagine myself frying my phone with it.
I would love to be able to have lists of people I follow, so I see a feed of just a subset of my friends.
I would give people the option between sats and proof of work. In this way none bitcoiners can also enjoy a spam free environment and bitcoiners are not bothered with this process.
It would be a very useful feature to have as long as it's configurable. I think PoW could be used to deter spam, not on every message but say a relay has never received an event from you before (new user), it could require your first 3 messages be PoW. Then it allows you to dial it back if you didn't receive any 1984s after your first few. Something like this, could help new users establish themselves without requiring a lightning payment.
I love the PoW concept. Relays could use a PoW threshold for spam deterrence.
This is for certain cases like if relays want to request some user to do PoW because of users suspicious behavior (indicated to spam)? By default it is not PoW, right?
I remember #[3] request this to #[2]
looks like I can't access some notes here like: #[5]
yes I am playing with pow and requiring pow from big spammers but it is just arbitrary numbers at this point. need a lot of tweaking.
I think you need to discuss this more with #[5] and #[4] . It seems related much with your vision.
Btw, thank you for zaps, you probably need to send more zaps for Vitor and MaxMoney :)
Will it assist in anything or just cause inconvenience?
How would this influence ux for older smartphones?
Wow, pow could be a way to avoid mass spamming.. Like in NANO 😄
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This is nonsense. This won't solve anything until the relays themselves demand PoW from everyone. But even if it is - phones will do PoW, and spammers will do PoW on servers and they will still shit everything with spam.
Paid relays are almost the same PoW. What difference does it make how to spend satoshis - either on PoW in equipment, or to pay for relay. In addition, phones will always lose to powerful equipment from spammers.
I am not so sure in it, I think that in this case, all Nostr clients should accept this. Something like hashcash. Otherwise Amethyst can lose a lot of users, since it would load your phone.
And it would be still possible to spam, since spammers can use other clients.
Btw, thanks for Amethyst. I complained a lot about it in past. As for now, I like it even more than Damus. 💜⚡💜