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In fiction, the point of view from how we see the story can often color how we perceive the ethics of characters. And of course, that lesson can apply in real life as well.

If you ask most people if Neo and Trinity in the Matrix are heroes or anti-heroes, for example, they’ll probably say heroes. There is nothing particularly dark or edgy about them other than kind of a general “cool” factor. They’re pretty chill and well-meaning people in their downtime, we care about their relationship, they help their friends, they have rather pure motivations, etc.

But in the Matrix, agents can teleport themselves into any unplugged person. Which means that when Neo or Trinity attack a place, they pretty much have to slaughter everyone. Leaving survivors means that agents can teleport in. Innocent guards and stuff just get wiped out by the dozens. The stakes of humanity being enslaved by the machines are so high, that the characters don’t even really debate the ethics of this; they just accept it.

Like literally the opening scene is Trinity killing police, and the audience is like “wow cool” instead of “so, is that the antagonist?” The famous lobby scene consists of Neo and Trinity wiping out tons of guards that are just doing their job of guarding a skyscraper. In the sequel, Trinity sends a motorcycle bomb into a power station, and then murders the remaining guards as they attack her. We all basically like Trinity, and yet there are platoons of widows and orphans out there from all the guards she killed. There aren’t really even any scenes of her reflecting on that, like finding it emotionally difficult in any way to do those things or feeling in any way haunted by it.

If the Matrix story was shown from like, a detective’s point of view, these characters are terrorists and would either seem like outright villains (if you don’t know their motivation) or anti-heroes if you do (ends justify the means; mass-murder is okay and not even worth feeling bad about if it saves billions).

So, how the movie *frames* things for us makes a big difference. We closely follow Neo and Trinity so much that we’re like, “of course they’re the heroes”. The same thing happens in real life with political commentators and things like that; a cultural narrative can frame something as wholly good or wholly bad when often it’s actually kind of complex.

Therefore, it’s a useful practice whether in analyzing fiction or real life, to always ask how you could invert the framing for something.

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It’s all fun and games until the agents port into you. 😅

If we’re remembering correctly (it’s been a while since last seeing The Matrix), the narrative also manages to dehumanize the people they’re killing making it seem like a computer simulation with no “real impact”, which makes it easier for the audience (and Neo and Trinity) to not view those deaths as something to feel guilty about.

The framing de-humanizes them but not necessarily for logical reasons. They are all real biological people that are plugged into the Matrix and die in real life if they are killed in the Matrix, and experience pain and so forth.

Shit, didn’t remember people actually died in their plug as a consequence of Neo and Trinity’s actions. Very beneficial omission to make them feel like heroes without so many shadows.

The guards and their family's were human batteries in the framework of the matrix though. They were sternly liberated.

I guess you don’t pay taxes

Well put as always.

Makes me think of The Sopranos.

They did a great job of getting you emotionally invested in this fun group of mob friends, only to slowly reveal through the seasons how awful and rotten they actually were. Leaving you to realise: what were you thinking, they’re friggin’ mobsters.

Interesting thought experiment on framing: “the left” is big on Hollywood movies. Hollywood movies often portray police as the bad guys. Does this spill into real life? A look at the past decade would say yes

I haven’t seen Sicario, but I would suggest that the common thread needs to be the character motivation, or the motivation of both needs to be established early unless the entire intent is to shock and punish the audience’s idea of a “happy ending” in war (or whatever the theme is). And importantly I think you have to warn your audience toward the beginning that this world

Includes the horror of unexpected and disappointing truths. If we don’t frame the theme or world with that, it can be jarring in a way that’s not enjoyable, but simply angering.

It’s a fine line to walk to buck norms and not jar the audience out of the story. I’m super eager to read what you’ve got though. Boldness very often leads to encoring stuff regardless.

I’ll give one example though of normative trends that were changed that I think was underappreciated. And that’s World War Z.

It appears on the surface like a regular “end of the world” type movie, but the escalation when you really look at it is reversed.

Usually a big budget disaster movie starts with 1 bad guy, then they fight a dozen bad guys that are more powerful and have their first “limited encounter” with the big dog, and then it ends with the “beam of light into the sky billions of random bad guys and the hugest mega boss man” fight.

WWZ actually reversed this:

• Act 1 has the literal “global zombie hordes” and huge scale attack.

• Act 2 brings it a little more local and it’s about a single city and then a single base and operation.

• Act 3 is in a building with just a few dozen zombies with a potential resolution in the middle of them.

• Then the climax is literally the main character and a single zombie.

But at each point the stakes are raised for the survival of mankind. And the final, single zombie is the ultimate test to the theory the protagonist develops during his investigation.

As someone who loves film/story and have considered myself a filmmaker, I had a particular appreciation for that movie for how they raised the stakes and intensity specifically by scaling DOWN the fight, but changing what each conflict meant. I think it was all the more powerful because of it.

The constant need for big budget films and most fantasy-adventure narratives to scale up every battle, I think is a crutch that actually weakens its effect more often than not.

It all about how main characters relate with NPC's and backwise

That is an amazing perspective I never thought of, even after watching that movie perhaps a dozen times.

Great point. I always thought they were kind of tapping into the "it's all just a video game" kind of vibe, but you are so right because even in the matrix universe this is just an abstraction because if you die in the matrix you die IRL.

There is definitely also a hot war kind of mentality as well and as you point out, everyone who is still plugged in is essentially an agent. They also only kill indiscriminately when there is a greater threat of agents.

I think as I've gotten older and also as I've gotten closer to God, I now find myself questioning the morality of any war movie including WWII movies like saving private Ryan, which also came out in a similar time period. But that was not my mental frame at the time.

But I think both are relevant. In the real life Western banking vs BRICS scenario, The western banks, IE Trump, Biden, Netanyahu, Are keeping the western empire mostly intact through posturing and social distraction, While the BRICS countries are catching up many nations that missed out on the progress the west created. This is why it is a totally new psychological paradigm in Bitcoin. People visit Europe to see the antiquated empire that developed after farming was industrialised. People visit China and Africa to see how the most ancient people lived or are living. People visit Brazil to see the most densely concentrated nature in the Rainforest, Or maybe what earth looked like when there were dinosaurs. Both play a relevant role in history and society. The last Trump presidency taught me to think like a banker, That if you bet on both sides, You win and lose every time. Just like the Jewish Bankers in Russia. Russia still exists, Russian people (except the oligarchs) are mostly miserable, But the bank both thwarted its largest threat and it also owns the second largest oil reserve in the world. Russian criminals are the loss the bank incurred to take ownership of Russian natural resources.

Reminds me about all those janitors, plumbers, electricians or others servicemen that died on Death Star. Luke Skywalker did not care about collateral damage.

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GM! The perception of an ethic is subjective unless you’re on the receiving end. 😉

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That’s not quite like you describe it in the Matrix. Both Neo and Trinity know the truth of all those lives in pods. The “widows with kids” thing is not really as we understand it today (unless we’ve not swallowed the red pill yet?).

There is still the pain of people being flushed down the drains when they are killed in the virtual world, and sure a tough choice to make, but I don’t see it as you describe it.

Love it !!! We’re finally at the observers mindset of classical stories …

When we are outside a system of thinking & able to see it from all sides … we’re on the path to transcending it.

This is a great place to be … if we as a collective are ready to do that with the Matrix … that means we’re ready to evolve as #creativeBeing(s)

We were watching the Star Wars movies with my daughter. It was her first time seeing them. We started with episodes 4 and 5 I think before 1, 2, 3.

She had never encountered an anti-hero before. I was dropping subtle hints the whole time but she believed Anakin was fundamentally good right up until they put the Darth Vader helmet on him. When the imperial theme music started up she lost her mind. She was scandalized like her whole world had just come undone.

It was amazing! 10/10 would recommend for every child. 🤣

that's it. it's "we vs them" in each single day you spend after kyc birth, wanting to live there. only personal POVs

you should write your content via longform client as articles, so we can save some as #curations, and not loose them in the #Nostr bookmarks dispora

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This is exactly why the fight for control of the narrative is so strong.

This was the genius behind Game Of Thrones if you ask me, how it played with the reader’s perception of morality and which characters you thought were the goodies or the baddies. And ruthlessly killing them as well as the NPCs 🤣

I agree and appreciate your analogy and perspective Lyn.

Read an article on IDF using AI tech called “lavender” and it is described as “used for more indiscriminate killing.”

Then same tech is covered by Fox but described as “helps reduce civilian casualties”

https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/

https://www.foxnews.com/world/israeli-deployed-ai-gaza-likely-helps-idf-reduce-civilian-casualties-expert-says

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Why do people think I suggest wars should be fought in the currently taboo methods of actually targeting the actual instigators regardless of mil / civ labels, currently taboo because they long ago removed themselves from the fray & propagandized against it, for very obvious reasons...

However if you are talking current warfare, don't kid yourselves, those supporting are not innocent even if they have convinced themselves they are.

And as a bonus, targeting the actual instigators would be a hell of alot cheaper. 😂

I would advise against believing there would be no collateral damage even in that however.

It would be nice to see those who have removed themselves into the shadows, squirm again for once...

And yes, I do have a death wish suggesting such. 🤣