I don’t see how anyone who doesn’t think bitcoin is a good thing for the world could be made to feel welcome on nostr.

I also don’t see how anyone who thinks bitcoin is fine, and also that eth and solana and usdt are fine in their own ways too, could be made to feel welcome on nostr.

If there are people here that think bitcoin is bad for the world, or that eth and sol are kind of just fine, then I'd love to know what's kept you around?

#asknostr

Reply to this note

Please Login to reply.

Discussion

ethereum has always been cool to me from a programming perspective (smart contracts)

i don't really care much for stablecoins, since i think bitcoin is going up anyway

besides, if i needed stable i might just buy gold?

i think of bitcoin an monero as the "useful and real" currencies

That's cool. I agree the smart contract side is interesting.

Also to see people stretch zkproofs to the very limit in an effort to graft some sort of smart contract modality onto the non-Turing complete Bitcoin chain is a bit of a head-scratcher to me. I do get the security allure, but it's not as if eth is at risk of a 51% attack or something.

Good for the zkproof industry though.

I quit inviting friends to Nostr because the immediate response after taking a peek was often something like, "Oh, it's a Bitcoin thing."

Most people have a life outside of Bitcoin, and find the topic absolutely boring.

I've seen very friendly Nostriches be 100% hostile to people introducing themselves and mentioning "crypto" in the same note; making it clear that they are not welcome here.

Yes, I'm sure the "oh it's a bitcoin thing" accounts for over 90% of the bounce rate.

Holy shit! I just had an idea: a nostr client with a setting to automatically filter out content mentioning bitcoim that is ON BY DEFAULT! Problem solved!

I'm in the second group. I don't really give a shit about crypto (inclusing bitcoin). It's pretty cool but it has nothing to do with why I'm here. I'm jere for free speech. The annoying bitcoin content is just a nuisance rn. I do get tired of people who like botcoin trying to convince other people who like bitcoin to like bitcoin. It gets repetitive af. By my braim has learned to filter it out, mostly.

I'm so targeted I have almost nowhere else to go. There are some good people on nostr at least

Bitcoiners went from a visionary new techies to conservatives "I don't care about anything else and don't change anything FFS." and you learn to live with it.

AFAIK Nostr was not 100% BTC related, but inspired by its mechanisms. It just happens to have a lot of bitcoiners.

I like new tech, I like freedom, I like censorship resistance - at this point BTC stuff here is a nuisance and a barrier to entry. But I believe in decentralisation and Nostr is the most complete social network I've seen on top of everything. Also bunch of cool ppl.

eventually everybody will get used to bitcoin

Nostr is a neutral protocol. Bitcoin (like it or not) comes with other inputs which you might like or not. two common issues I see (from other people) are:

1. fixed supply (ethically some people believe a adjustable supply is good for the world)

2. no privacy by default

With nostr, the protocol isn't opinionated, you can build whatever you want on it. With bitcoin, the protocol is VERY opinionated.

A small group of us are trying to create a welcoming feed with wss://relays.land/spatianostra that doesn't mention bitcoin too terribly often, and if the topic does come up it's usually something actually informative. Most of the authors of the posts that get voted into the feed aren't people who demean, demand, or breathe catch phrases. There's even some who never discuss bitcoin. Branching out from there is still tricky, there are other relays like wss://hotrightnow.nostr1.com too. There is currently a lot of author/content overlap, though.

Some focus on more relay based feeds could go a long way, and its starting. The problem now being anyone who might be interested in creating these spaces has to run the bitcoin gauntlet alone before getting to a point that they can establish them. The other alternative is bitcoiners with enough conviction about free speech to the take some initiative to create these spaces. I have found (with my personal profile) that even hardcore bitcoiners like to talk about other things. They're just not very good at starting the conversations.

That didn't answer your question at all, but the solution to the problem is sitting in plain sight. So I'm beating that drum. 😊