Using the Jobs to Be Done lens, what jobs have we hired “likes” to do on a post/tweet/note for us, historically? I’d suggest:
- Send a signal of polite acknowledgement that we read it
- Send a signal of agreement with it
- Act as a bookmark of it
What else?
It’s all virtue signal at this point
Surreal to watch someone scroll instagram these days and like various things moving past on the conveyor belt.
Those taps are literally doing unpaid work for Meta.
I think this is a fair way to net it all out. Part of me wants to say “I don’t use it as a virtue signal,” but if I’m really honest, no matter which of the above ways I’m using likes, they’re hollow.
As someone said elsewhere in the thread, replying with a simple emoji is at least a bit more POW.
I’m baffled how polite acknowledgment has suddenly turned into mindless virtue signaling. Replying with an emoji is now more “valuable”than clicking a 🤙 button? Let’s all just do whatever feels like an appropriate response.
Above all, voluntary, yes.
Yes
Does a 10 sat zap carry more weight than a 50 sat zap? If so is your ability to show appreciation proportional to your income level?
I assume you mean the opposite: 50 > 10. This gets into a slippery slope discussion about equity and equality, but ultimately, yes. Short of some relative weighting, the larger amount of capital expended carries more weight.
I don’t think you can read that deeply.
Some people might make 5 big zaps per day, someone else on equal resources might zap 500 small zaps in the same day and both have equal totals.
It’s just fun. It’s just pennies.
It’s like throwing buttons at each other.
For now. But we know where those sats are headed in fiat value.
They’re only worth something if we disperse them.
That is the riddle.
Certainly, but either way, and no matter the currency, more money is more money. And this carries weight in a given trade.
That’s not always true. Let me give a real world example.
Oil.
Every year the world consumes 36bn barrels of crude oil. This is approx 1 cubic mile of oil.
If the world produces 37bn barrels of oil (3% too much) the oil price is $40. The value of the cube is $1.5 trillion.
If the world produces 35bn barrels of oil (3% shortfall) the oil price is $110. The value of the cube is $3.85 trillion.
The smaller cube is worth a lot more than the larger cube.
This is why we have wars.
Interesting, but I’m not sure oil = user generated content holds in this case.
👍 are fiat, ⚡️ are hard value.
obviously, if the shareholder is the customer, the user has to be somebody else in this construct
bring real value back to people creating🫣
And what about Zapping to dislike a post, where could the sats go? 🤔
Ooof... yeah, turn this on and info wars can begin in earnest.
Interesting #[3] .
Maybe “dislike” zaps go to an open source nostr dev/client dev fund.
Perhaps #[4] would know how to / who can manage this anti-zap opensats nostr stash.
My first reaction was to have a designated popular & respected person who would troll the same way I did with posting Calle's lightning address for tips... and then it goes there + that person manages it by changing address every now and then.
But maybe this is where we should employ market forces - you just make it transparent that someone is paying to suppress certain message and send it directly to relays / clients / others that participate in propagation.
Interesting question: effectively, how do we short a note?
Paying the relay an extra incentive to efficiently send only posts that haven't been voted against in this way (my first thought is that this would end in disaster). Or just paying a satcounter and visible display service that serves data needed to auto-filter suppress-bountied posts. (interesting but not sure if better than just... filters with lots of knobs and levers).
Until zaps are ubiquitous, likes provide a way to ack/support a post without cluttering up the conversation thread.. also the total count is something my app could use as a filter .. hopefully zaps count/amount could also be used to locally filter and show popular posts.. no server algos needed
Definitely. Sorting our feeds by cumulative zap amounts will be powerful.
I do use it a lot as a polite acknowledgement. Zaps have amount as parameter so it is easier to categorize it - whenever its "polite acknowledgment" or it's "i support this enough to send money for a breakfast burrito 🌯".
You're right that we need to identify all dimensions and then intensity.
Good point. snort deserves credit here for first enabling preset zap amounts with the paired emoji.
(goes to like #[4] posts as appreciation virtue signal)
Thanks for the tag. Props, #[3]. 🙌🏼
https://snort.social/e/note1ue4mprsnk6kjf2k933l28lxstl5wry0c47wudd0ap73mnsjwy7zq4cugey
Gotta like #[6] notes as well 😉
This raises an interesting possibility: could we (easily) choose to zap everyone tagged in a note, along with the person who posted it? Maybe with a preset split, not unlike what Fountain enables for podcasters.
We need "zap all", would love this.
Got tagged in this, interesting development: https://snort.social/e/note1q78gyjvh6n5wgg72d9n0p7kf7v43dtgcm5l98wujazv4rs5hd4vs3dgfq4
It also serves to keep one's content feed free of too many reposts- the difference between being up on a platform speaking and nodding along in an audience. It creates vibes that can build naturally.
I notice that websites without this kind of thing perform less well.
I think zaps versus likes is good- nice to see when people like something but won't put actual support quite yet.
- Accurately inform data collections as to preferences, more or less
- Create a curated list of posts that can be accessed by others
- Try to affect the algorithm / vote that 'people should see this post'
BTW There is virtue signal in reposts as well - a lot. Many people not reading beyond the headline, but saying 'this is what I believe!' or 'this is what I've been trying to say!' ... which is an okay and necessary social thing to do.
As for the solution, I guess I'd need to know, what was the need to distinguish reactions from replies from reposts?
Reaction:
post-type=reaction;content=':)'
Reply:
post-type=reply;content='Well said'
Repost:
post-type=repost;content='You might like this:'
Fair point about repost as virtual signal. However, as #[3] noted, it does carry a non-trivial reputation cost.
Your post is getting a lot of attention.
Added to the https://member.cash/hot feed
Give back some value so that we don't feel indebted to the creator
