I am against digital ID, obviously, but I also have an American social security number I was assigned at birth and I could not get a typical job witbout it. So I'm not sure why everyone is especially distressed at this new flavor of government abuse, because digital ids have been a thing since before most of us were born. Is it wrong? Not inherently, but it makes government abuse and identity theft so easy that it constitutes willful negligence of the duty to protect.
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i haven't really looked into the topic of identity theft, so could you elaborate on how digital id's make it that much easier compared to SSN's?
I'm not sure how they plan to secure the digital id but generally when someone else provides your identity it is subject to potential theft. In more sophisticated systems, like with facial recognition, theft may be mitigated but government abuse is so much easier and automatic.
you can look up mobile id and smart id in estonia, for signing transactions etc and how digital id's work over here
we are supposedly #1 at it
If someone steals your ID number, you can get a new number. When someone steals your ID biometrics, you can't change that.
It has reached the point that one can't travel without a digital surveillance ID.
Soon it will be to the point that one cannot buy or sell without a digital surveillance ID. All the globalists have to do is eliminate cash, and then attach a programmable blockchain currency to the surveillance ID
They piloted this in China and are won't towards this goal with things like the EU digiral wallet.
It is the synthesis of information and the immediacy of the conclusions to further impede basic human actions that I find a "digital" id reprehensible.
Of course. It's a stronger brew of the same existing ingredients. It accelerates evil and abuse. It definitely must be stopped.
Are you against Identity or itw Digitization? I think Bitcoin and nostr are the ultimate digital identities ..
I think self sovereign identities are the only ethical identity. Because nobody should have the power to take your identity away from you, and that's only possible if you create it and secure it yourself.
Your US Id is also self sovereign.. you can get rid of it at any time .. it does cost a bit but that is like the fees of inefficient system ..not the fault of Identity ..
It's not the digital part that concerns people. It is the surveillance and unlimited data collection that comes with the new digital IDs.
We need to call these new IDs what they are. Digital Surveillance IDs.
IDs have always been restricted to a few bits of info being attached to them. In order for the government to collect more data, you had to be convicted of a crime.
The new digital IDs are actually surveillance IDs that collect unlimited data on citizens, treating everyone like a convicted criminal.
And the end goal appears to be controlling and forcing people into complying with the immoral dictates of globalist tyrants.
#Bitcoin and #nostr don't even need to protect against surveillance..because every thing is OPEN Public đ ..
Your identity and biometrics aren't attached to them, and they can't control you through them.
Nostr = identity without identification
if you bought on Coinbase and likes ..you are already linked .. which is like 90 percent of all BTC txns .. and those who live in wilderness ..chain analytics can get pretty close .. so ..
But I am not saying it is bad .. Bitcoin is supposed to be public OPEN .. there is nothing to hide on this network
The simplest explanation is that it decentralizes restrictions. SSN takes away freedoms at a federal level (job access, banking, etc).
Digital ID opens that up to a more granular and local level of control. It essentially solves the âjust move to a different state if you donât like itâ for them. You canât out run dystopian rule anymore⌠something a SSN could never achieve for the state.
Yes, centralized identity at the federal/national levels makes the abuses of an administrative state possible. I think most of the complaint about âdigital IDâ is not from what is presently being proposed but the fear of what an administrative state could do with it. An SSN is already ârequiredâ for so much of our lives itâs not really voluntary though i donât believe it is technically mandatory to have one. But that just means they have all the carrots and sticks structured to get us to opt in. Once a unique individual is tied to a unique value the state can then determine the standing of that individual. And if the state is allowed to restrict access to systems with that value then we are in a tough spot. But the Trojan horse was allowing a unique individual to be represented with an immutable value at all. I can make similar arguments about street addresses. Whatever the state wants to tax it must be able to uniquely map and track.
