The comments on this are wild.
We're all here hyping up #zaps and #v4v but then criticize people who successfully earn a real income from their social media activity.
Why are you rooting against them? Isn't this what we're hoping will happen here on nostr? nostr:note1dg8yhqm8ah57r6lspyef87x5y0fq4944ht5lvcjh3cyx5e6g34qqzk79lp
Haven’t read the comments but there are important differences between this happening on nostr over lightning vs a company’s dubious and corrupt fiat platform
Of course but TikTokers don't know about Nostr. If they did, they'd all be running over here.
No they wouldn’t. The lack of an algo is a bug for them, not a feature.
If "influencers" routinely made 10,000,000 sats/month on Nostr maybe they would flock over.
According to zaplife.lol somewhere around 3,150,000 sats were zapped in the last week so if all zaps for a month went to this one woman we could just barely cover the monthly bills of one influencer.
Maybe we need some nostr devs to focus on bolstering the simp economy to bootstrap
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Nostr is in its early days!
I see a future where people opt-in to get paid to watch ads and earn Bitcoin they can zap to content creators they like.
I see a future where we establish a decentralized attention marketplace that puts Bitcoin into the pockets of the masses who get to decide for themselves what they see and how much content is worth.
There will be no cap on how much someone will be able to earn posting content on nostr. 🤗
#nextblock
There's a lot of algos used in the Nostr
It's a bug for me, too. Dumb clients over dumb relays has a very limited appeal.
We're going to try it without an algorithm, and instead design options for traveling around different groups of content on Nostr. The idea is that you have control over everything you see, or you temporarily give someone else control.
That's also an algo, tho. Just a different kind. Even "from follows" is an algo. 🤷🏻♀️
It's just a chronological list of notes. You're building the list by adding people to your neighborhood and block. And you can visit other people's neighborhoods.
An algorithm is just a logical procedure or a set of rules. So, that already qualifies as an algo.
I'll take your word for it but that is how we're communicating the features. Just better to ditch these terms and make it very easy for anyone to understand why they're seeing the content that they're seeing when scrolling on social media.
Yeah, I just find it weird when software engineers attempt to demonize software engineering, as if it were a dark art.
People hear "algo" and freak out, but it's the basic building block of software programs. An application is literally only data and algos. 🤷🏻♀️ That's what software _is_ and removing too much algo leaves the user staring at an endless feed of Odell saying GM.
😅 I hear exactly what you're saying.
The problem with big tech platforms is not that they have too many algos, but too few.
I took a very basic CS class once upon a time, which of course had nothing to do with social media or anything, and the prof always said above all he was hoping we’d learn “algorithmic thinking”
As in like purely logical, possibly mathematical, loopish, if-then sort of stuff
IDK, give me a (powerful) filtering and i'll be fine. client or relay side. but my rules.
make it a lists, allow me to switch between them (like a db view).
give me my own (clieny side) DVMs.
Just like all the OF girls, right? Oh yeah... Some came here and most moved on because they didn't get enough zaps for it to be worth their while.
It's a bit of any oxymoron because you cannot have one without the other in most cases. I do understand though. Most of our influencers understand value for value and proof of work and it seems like this people may not or may have different incentives and values. But in the end, we should tell this girl and all of her followers to come to Nostr. They can support her still, using the tools that we have here.
Yeah the more the merrier! Everyone should be welcome.
If we don't want to see their stuff, just mute them if you come across it. And with no algorithm, you would likely never cross paths with this creator for example.
No we want v4v. She is providing zero value. She is the exact same as the homeless guy on the corner begging for money.
I think you might be unfair with homeless people
You're right. The homeless are much better people than this influencer.
Influencers are marketers. Like people on the home shopping network or people who design billboards or think up jingles.
Some of them actually work really hard. It's a cutthroat job market.
This girl is not working hard. She's begging for money.
She just got laid off.
Laid off her platform. Where she begs for money. If she has sponsors and an audience, then she should be able to carry a sizable audience to any platform and her sponsor would continue to pay her for her marketing. But she can't. If she has marketable skills, she should have no problem performing the same skills on any and all other platforms. If I got laid off, I wouldn't beg for money. I would go get another job with my valuable skill set.
Not the same situation. I've arranged financial help for long-term suppliers, before, to keep them afloat while reestablishing themselves, after they lost a big customer or went solo.
Apparently, people view her as a trusted supplier and don't want her to go work at McDonald's or learn to code. That is not your problem. She apparently does have marketable skills. That is why she has customers willing to help her, so that she doesn't reorient herself.
This is the free market, at work. Nobody is being forced to finance her lifestyle.
Her audience is financing her. Her audience is not her employer if she is marketing. It's different. Her audience is being fleeced because her employer no longer sees value in her.
I have used all the main social media platforms to market several projects for the last decade, all very different. It is extremely difficult to show up on people's feed unless you're lucky and the algorithm god's have blessed you. Or ads.
For some reason, I don't know I don't work there, on TikTok it is much easier to build an account and get in front of people who will eventually follow you and grow with you. It's a more level playing field (but not really obviously it's still an algorithm) than the others.
So I understand the point you are trying to make but in this context that's just not how this industry works.
Fair point, I struggle with ‘influencer culture’ it’s often people using talents for advertising goods as opposed to us celebrating their talents for what they are. We all know about click through sales, phoney product reviews etc. We’ve all become used to being a brand but it’s time to be a shop instead, if that makes sense. Income built on these platforms is fragile, techno feudalism, working the digital fields for tech landlords.
Shadenfreude is very real and a lot of people are just cunts really. Maybe it’s the numbers she was making that pissed people off? If she’d said “stay humble stack sats” at the end she’d be a heroine here…
I toyed with the idea a few years back (and the videos remain the most watched content I’ve made) but I didn’t want to be a product reviewer, I want to make funny noises in my computer so I’m kind of broke but I have my integrity (lol).
I’m here for V4V and Nostr is still a long way off, even compared to the Fediverse, in terms of money in my pocket.
No answers, just some words from a person who makes noises for cash.
What did she influence? I’ve been wondering how I got these socks on my feet.
Yeah, like the brand/shop dichotomy. But, I'd say more that it's about branding your shop, rather than yourself, directly. Like, you lend your WoT to your shop, rather than someone renting your trust, for their shop.
She will be ok. Sell the Benz, get a used Toyota, downsize and get a smaller place, who really needs a bed frame anyway?
This is very simple. All these riding a high horse commentators just envy her, envy her the money. Bc they think they obv deserve it more. For whatever reason exist on their mind. Btw , a lot of ppl on nostr are obsessed with money, not bitcoin, not freedom of speech , not decentralisation and permissionless, they just want The Money.
That’s the thing about being a maximalist in anything, there comes a point where all or nothing thinking results in reduced relationships.
At the most basic level we are all humans.
And each of us have made poor decisions, or taken longer to learn or adopt a way of thinking than another person.
I prefer to bias being useful and helpful vs valid and right.
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That being said, it’s never wise to build a one legged business!
nostr:npub18uu2haaal7srygh3vtjn0atnc6eencszgzf0rec3nfnd2p7kgewsqrnhm4 #thanks for the #zap
