I think most atheists are cowards. This isn't just my opinion, but also that of Nietzche. They take on most of Christian morality without God, and can't justify the morality that they subscribe to.
But in a sense, the philosophically consistent atheists are even worse. They are sociopathic in their pursuit of power. But at least I can respect them.
I wish bitcoiners werent predominantly religious zealots lol my only gripe with the culture, I think
Agreed. Zealotry requires trait disagreeability, makes sense that there's some overlap here.
Doesn't stop at religion, the seed oil phobia is hilariously overrepresented as well.
But what do I know? I'm just a lowly, cowardous, agnostic-athiest đ
I don't know man , there seems to be something to the seed oil stuff to be honest with you .
Calories equated (barring any extreme sensitivities), it's much ado about nothing.
Eat less processed foods, in general, for better health. Demonizing foods won't solve the thermodynamic problem of CICO.
Just because obnoxious people might talk about this topic with religious fervor doesn't make them wrong.
Just because people cling to a practical truth doesn't make their position absolutely correct.
- You can be practically "right" on accident.
If being a bible-thumping-paleo/carnivore works for you, then by all means, keep at it! I respect your right to do so.
However, expect some justified pushback if you denigrate others by labeling them cowards.
I am an atheist and I eat meat and animal products. I am an individual with many uncorrelated opinions and I refuse to be boxed inside an ideology.
In my small sample size, religious people are as likely to get things right as any other group, when they think outside the confines of their ideological possession.
Furthermore religious dogmas incorporate useful ideas that have survived the test of time, including fasting or meditating.
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Facing objective uncertainty with courage and humility is far braver than any level of deluded certainty - for or against the fairy tales used as a psychological crutch.
Not having the comfort of knowing I will see again my beloved ones that have passed, is not easy. There not one day I wish I could lay down my life to speak again even for a minute with my sister. I don't belive that this alone makes me courageous, but definitely is not an argument supporting moral cowardice for not being a Christian.
Atheists that say empirical evidence is why there is no God, maybe stop and reassess the argument. By that reasoning, there is a lack of empirical evidence saying there isn't a God. Using material reasoning to prove the immaterial is a step in the wrong direction.
Just because there isn't a sense experience to the knowledge, doesn't mean its untrue. We use Maths and/or the results of Maths everyday, yet we cannot observe a perfect right triangle in nature.
I'm not too well versed in Apologetics but the 'Transcendental Argument for God' in Orthodox Theology appears to be the best line of thinking for an existence of God.
I found this dude's apologetic approach most helpful. A prepositional apologetic. The discussion under Media > Skype Discussions is especially profound and helpful. https://www.proofthatgodexists.org/
It comes from a disgust for what the church has become. Everyone running a church I have ever met is a greedy drifter selling everlasting life, moral high ground, or self-importance to better their own lives or worse, take the innocence of young children.
Iâm not saying itâs everyone involved with the church but the fact that it is so prevalent and the church has done nothing to rectify their wrongs is deplorable. Young people will continue to shy away from religion as long as this remains unaddressed.
Sounds to me like you're talking about a fiat church problem - where the message of the Church is increasingly influenced by State grants and consessions that are dangled in front of them. Christ rejected material gain, power & rulership when the Devil offered it. Matthew 7 proves that Christ will say to the Church "I never knew you, get away from me you workers of lawlessness." Without this understanding, I too would have been put off "Christianity" and become an atheist. A life without your Lifegiver is no life.
Can you be specific on the state grants and concessions? Itâs not like these issues are specific to one country. What state grants are causing the Vatican to cover up priests raping kids and keeping the priests in the church? What state programs incentivize pastors to own million dollar mansions and drive porches. Itâs not like these issue are recent either. Corruption has plagued religious leaders since the beginning of religion, fiat money or not.
The root of the churchâs problem is that all churches currently require a central figure that has unquestioned interpretive power over the Word for their church. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
I had my awakening during the plandemic. When I started to dig, I found many newspaper articles online announcing that the State was handing out huge amounts of money to faith-based charities under the banner of âCovid reliefâ. But Iâd heard enough accounts about Public Relations narrative sculpting training, to know there was more to the story. Then I found a blog by a small church which did not have the writing skill to cloak the pitch that the State had made to them â so they pretty much repeated it word-for-word on their own blog â right there out in public. It went something like this: âMany people donât trust the government or big business/pharma. But they trust us as their faith leaders. If we tell them to take the jab, theyâll listen â because we have built a relationship of trust with them over many years â which can now be leveraged.â
Upon realizing what was going on, I then began to make public information requests to establish whether my church had also taken the bribe money. I knew my church would never tell me. So I had to go to the other side of the transaction. I have never been given such a run-around in my life. They broke every rule in the book not to answer my question. And by not answering it, they answered it.
As for your next point, I agree that financial corruption is not necessarily linked to serious sexual crime. But I would say that time preference plays a role in both. If you train your brain to succumb to your short-term desire in one area in life, itâs potentially going to let you down in other areas too. I agree that the impact of time preference predates fiat money.
As for your next point, I donât know enough yet to say that EVERY church has a âcentral figureâ that has âunquestioned interpretive powerâ. Iâm still fact-finding. Itâs a slow and difficult process and life has other demands.
I agree that power corrupts imperfect people.
Thank you for taking the time to respond to me and for challenging my statements. It helps me think clearer.
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Iâm an atheist and I agree with your opinion. Thatâs what I experienced first hand being with the group. Most think theyâre intelligent and religious resin are stupid. Seriously, just because I donât believe does not make me any better.
Jimmy you donât need religion to have morals - the cult of death is poison for everyone- the world would be a much kinder place without religion
No other reason to be good to people other than because god says so? Give me a break.
I donât feel the need to shit on your religion. Why do you care that I choose to not believe something without proof?
Good people with strong morals donât have âChristian valuesâ. Christians have good morals because itâs the obvious choice for a fulfilling life.
Only difference is some Christians are doing it for reward or fear of punishment, which is an embarrassment.
Personally, I donât think itâs cowardice.
I think true atheists are deeply hurt and angry.
My2sats.
I became disallusioned with organized religion too. Had I not found sound answers, I would have become an atheist too.
After seeing how the State used organized religion to promote the jab and how the State uses organized religion now to poorly mask their war scheme in the middle-east, there are surely only going to be more atheists joining the ranks. I don't blame them that much. Finding truth is hard. Most are not able.
If I belonged to one of the big 3 faiths and then I found out that the religious leaders were just bribed puppets of elites from multiple states working together, I would be bitter for a long time. It's hard to believe that "your own" religion and political leader worked on a plan with "the enemy" over the border to slaughter your loved ones in order to create a narrative.
Christendom = Judiasm = Islam.
USA=UK=Russia=Ukraine=China=Iran=Israel=Palestine.
Elites have pulled the cruelest of all jokes on their ignorant loyal followers.
It's only math.
Ok reposting after reading comments.
Atheism IS NOT a dislike of or resistance to âreligionâ.
Atheism is a staunch, categorical rejection that there is a higher Intelligence in the World/Universe.
You can rail against religion of every stripe, embrace the scientific method, and still recognize there is a Reason behind our being here, now.
To reject there is any Reason behind our being here, now, is Atheism.
I might be a coward, but not because I do not believe in any god. Don't push your beliefs on me. That's immoral and this particular sin is frequently committed by religious people.
Christians donât have a monopoly on Christian morals.
