it was great for a while, for me at least. felt free of alllll that bullshit, people just muted or blocked instead of quoting to yell. then i think it just got too big for the ability to keep up moderating it. and culture shift with each new influx of course. now its all fighting and vitriol and Discourse Takes
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right now nostr is pretty bad at this, but I think eventually we will be able to offer those looking for a utopia of only like minded people a product eventually, activity pub (mastodon) is actually great at this, nostrās version will be more personal utopia than server admins utopia, but what some want is vitriol & discourse, and they will say they want this but wonāt take it when offered.
yeah a lot of people //say// they want a community of just people who think like themā until they get there and theres no one to yell at but each other
then they eat the server admin alive
just like theyāve done with the bsky team. it just keeps happening
Thereās no sys admin here though.
nostr isnāt an app, itās a technology. Itās a technology for a lot of different apps to talk to each other.
The result is that content gets stored in lots of different places and nobody can control what is on the network.
so right now we donāt have the tooling to offer the trade of controlling others for a personal utopia, I believe what nos social is working on will end up allowing an opt in product that will be what the vitriolicās have always claim they want, but I also believe they wonāt take itā¦ note itās always concern for what other see but they themselves can tolerate it enough to react to it.
that wonāt be for me btw, I mute airdrops only.
Controlling others?
Nothing to do with tooling, we donāt have the authority or the consent. Or the need!
I think you should re-read what I said.
Iāll break it down for you a bitā¦
trade
controlling others (abandon, give up, you give this away)
for
a personal utopia
I have no idea what you mean though?
Give away controlling others, and receive a personal utopia?
Nobody controls others?
So nothing to trade.
the whole point of being able to block someone, for instance, on bluesky introduced a bunch of changes to their plans and architecture, because you have to control what someone else can see and not just what you see. People coming to nostr will have to trade that away.
Did you read the recently issued apology they put out about controlling user names?
I saw a giant wall of corporate text, I didnāt realise they expected anyone to read it?
If so, it should have been 1 paragraph.
just admit you entered the conversation late and lacked some context š« no oneās calling for that here.
I can agree that I have no idea about Blue Sky. Iāve never used it.
I was just pointing out that there is no system admin on nostr. So nobody will answer drama.
As far as I can tell, Blue Sky seems to be a Twitter clone for people who hate Tesla guy?
if you just hate Tesla guy you go to threads. bluesky has the hard core social justice experts, not just virtue signaling progressives (well maybe the dev team), but the hard core radicals.
imo, threads is for if you hate that guy but miss the brands & celebs on twitter, bsky is for if you hate that guy but miss the community you built on twitter
fair, but no oneās like reacting to you rebuilding that there on here the way when itās mentioned here weāre talking about the radials making that hard for yāall to just have pre 2015 twitter back.
oh word yeah. god how i miss when twitter was fun and games
2008 Twitter was the fucking best. No hashtags, no image uploads. Just speak your peace up to 140 characters and have fun until the site went down for three hours. 
i fucken remember that !! no quote rts. hell. manual copy-paste retweets
It seemed to me to be the place where most of the acronym kids went to so they could post the raunchier stuff that wasnāt permitted on other places.
yes, and to be able to post anything with fewer harassing assholes. tbh. lotta people have a problem with harassing people they disagree with when they could just move on
speaking of assholes I saw someone comparing a literal gaping asshole to tits, and expressed that moderation was uneven, I thought that was an incredibly interesting moral dilemma despite not being pro moderation.
They can actually, but nostr is better than all of the other options.
This is the result of a generation or two of kids who always got a participation trophy.
idk i got a participation prize once as a kid and i fucking cried it felt awful. i think a lot of the trophies were just so parents didnt have to admit their kid wasnt special tbh
it would interfere with the lesson they were teaching to their kids if the world didnt reward them as āØspecial and perfect āØ
egocentric parent => egocentric kid
went to a school for dyslexia in 5th and 6th grade and the awards ceremonies, that happened semesterly latest like 3 hours š and everyone knew 99% of the awards were bullshit.
To me itās honestly reminded me of something Iāve seen from a lot of alternative social media.
Everything feels wonderful at first, everyoneās cordial and friendly, every argumentās taken with some level of consideration towards keeping some level of peaceā¦
But then, at a certain point - perhaps with enough people joining - it all kinda collapses. Iāve kinda wondered if Iāll ever find a place where this doesnāt happen at some point in time.
fingers crossed its here im tired of joining new socials
Iām so happy youāre with us nostr:npub1lj7k87jwg7s0hnl20tjksv2qfhmz2v0rx9lhwx9e69pqllw7w64seyx6hf and I donāt think there is anywhere to go after #nostr.
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