There are bits in there we can find common groubd on. A few points of divergence:
Feminism is predicated upon egalitarianism, which is a poison to civilization and cuts against the grain of God's design for man and woman. And this is evidenced, in part, in a key point you make: that through technology women have achieved "liberation" from their reproductive biology.
Only through technological domination of nature have women done this, and have lost sight of their unique design and purpose in the world, their unique glory. They try to be "more like men" and lose themselves.
The technology of birth control gave women the illusion that they can deny one of the principle things that make them who they are. As if their biology is a prison and children are a punishment. It is such a perverse inversion of the truth that it ultimately leads to dehumanizing and destroying women and children. There is a through line from brith control to abortion, by the way.
There is also no such thing as "casual sex" or sex "free of risk". This is another modern lie that misunderstands the intended purpose of sex and under appreciates the second, third, and fourth order consequences of dislodging it from the covenant of marriage.
You mention fiat. I contend that feminism is fiat equality. Birth control is fiat liberation. And "casual sex" is fiat union. All are high time preference and rob men and women both of dignity.
How is egalitarianism a poison to civilization?
Who are you to say what a woman’s purpose is?
Who are you to claim that there is no such thing as casual sex? Do you have any evidence for that claim?
Egalitarianism erases all natural distinctions between men and women. No civilization can remain healthy when this occurs. Our civilization is exhibit A.
Before I answer you, I am curious to hear how sex can be casual and free of risk.
Who said it erases all distinctions between men and women?
I don’t recall saying it’s free of risk. I just said it’s casual as in, there are no commitments.

So here you meant no commitments? And by commitments you mean children?
I stand corrected. Free of risk regarding pregnancy.
Thanks for clarifying.
My argument here is that this is using technology and ideology to distort sex and human sexuality. Sex isn't_only_about procreation but it is_fundamentally_about procreation. So technologically dislodging sex from procreation and ideologically dislodging sex from the marital covenant is upstream of a lot of our cultural rot.
It isn't "casual" because it is so destructive.
Those are all opinions, not proven facts.
Mass infanticide via abortion (1M+ since 60s)
Rise of STIs
Increase rates of fatherlessness
Declining birth rates
Declining marriage rates
No fault divorce
Rampant pornification of everything
OnlyFans culture
Sexualization of children
Further degradation of the traditional family
The pill destroying women's bodies
To name a few "facts" that are directly related to postindustrial feminist ideology and birth control technologies.
I enjoy the engagement on these subjects but since your main retorts against me are "who are you to say?" and "why evidence do you have?" and "those are all opinions" I am bowing out and will simply encourage you to do the research here. And to read the Bible.
If they’re using birth control correctly, then the abortion risk doesn’t apply here.
I’m not completely convinced about the STI stuff. A lot of what I’ve read about HIV seems like nonsense so everything else is in question for me.
Fatherlessness has increased because of fiat. It hasn’t increased because of birth control.
No fault divorce has nothing to do with birth control.
I’m not really sure what point you’re trying to make. You can have your opinions that birth control is bad or immoral. But all I’ve tried to say is that the state of women today is more a result of birth control instead of feminism.
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