saylor says bitcoin does not compete with the dollar
dorsey says nostr does not compete with x
same energy
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Weak positions
Odell says one shouldnt have the freedom to discourage others from supporting bitcoin devs.
people can do whatever they want
glad i made it public that saylor discouraged ark from supporting open source devs
many people still hate me for it but ark now supports devs
That’s not how you framed it tho. The reason why people feel some type of way about what you said is because you either insinuated or straight up said (people can look up the note) that saylor told cathie wood and possibly others that they would be crushed if they supported devs. Your unsubstantiated comments painted him as a bad actor that was using his influence and power to bully other players into not funding devs. When he simply shared his opinion in private as to why it might not be wise to compulsively fund devs.
the desire for so many to white knight for a billionaire that has massive influence in the industry is odd
saylor was not offended by my comments, he has said as much to me personally
Nah man, white knighting people like Saylor or Dorsey has nothing to do with the point I made. It’s about the truth and framing.
You told people Saylor threatened major ETFs with being "CRUSHED" by him if they funded devs. Stand by that framing of what you said instead of sanitizing it and feeling vindicated just because the end result would have been the same. You painted him in a bad light by describing his private conversations with Cathie Wood and others as threats, when he was simply expressing his opinions and concerns about funding developers according to him. Who knows, maybe he is a liar and he actually did threaten people. But absent evidence, it’s all hearsay.
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They're both right.
Bitcoin transcends the dollar
Nostr transcends twitter (and all social media)
and some people said that seedsigner does not compete with coldcard 🤓
Saylor is a BitcoinBug - pass it on
But I believe Jack.
Watch what they do not what they say. Classic politics.
Twitter is Dorsey's first best and most successful social product created by himself. With historical significance, Twitter has earned @jack Dorsey a lot of honor and wealth. Twitter is like Dorsey's kid,
He should continue to support Twitter.
Nostr is just another "child".
Of course he raised#Nostr 😛
Saylor + Dorsey = Saysey
Bitcoin and nostr both give a community freedom
Follow the incentives
same energy, but not same conclusion.
Because,
Bitcoin regulation could be one or the other, with voting and consensus.
Nostr's app doesn't need to be the one.
you can persue the winner in twitter alternative market, without seeking approval and concensus.
To be fair X can eventually be based on nostr and that can work out just fine for X
The dollar however as an independent floating token is eventually toast. I guess it can live on as a bitcoin-denominated credit but that’s best case for it
Bitcoin is the guy at the gym that Saylor tells his fiat not to worry about.
Nostr is the guy at the gym...
Strong agree with both
Weak, low vibrational energy. Small penis energy
When you stop fighting is When your creation gets overrun by bad actors.
Saylor and Dorsey are right.
Because Bitcoin and Nostr have already "won."
The dollar and X just don't know it yet.
GM. Dorsey is less wrong than Saylor. Money is winner takes all; open question if that is the case for comms protocols and networks.
Maybe they mean they are just far superior
Nope
I think Dorsey is more correct than Saylor, but both are wrong in the same way that steak at your grocery store still competes with the pizza parlor. Semantics are a helluva thing!
dorsey doesn't want to lose his precious twitter but he should accept it's over
bluesky won
another one of his creations
If I got two bucks to invest, it will go with Block, not Strategy. And it says all. Their energies are very different
Their statements are perfectly in line with their incentives. My incentives are different 🚁😁
Stop picking on Saylor we know why he says that. He don't want that fight right now.
I actually agree, don't compete with crippled opponents, it's not nice. 😎
Same energy. Same wisdom. Same truth bombs. 🧡💜
We are winning 🏆
both technologies are playing the infinite game.
short term, there might be competition but it doesn’t matter long term.
cooperation
Hi odell! I think it's right not to put them in competition! They are completely different things. The truth is that bitcoin will sweep away the dollar! And we'll sweep away Twitter! But it still takes time. At least twenty years
Saylor believes bitcoin should be store of value and dollar medium of exchange. Bitcoin compete with dollar and has to become the medium of exchange to deliver its potential as freedom money. Are you really free if you have to convert your bitcoin to usdc/usdt (they are gateway to cbdcs) to buy stuff?
Nostr on the other hand is much more than just social media (unlike X). Nostr is engine, whereas X is Toyota. You can use engine in cars, but it is not limited to cars and does not compete with car companies, but can be used to create new car brands to compete the existing ones.
i will keep my money in bitcoin only.
i will keep using nostr only.
its just better for myself and only a matter of time before everyone else does see this the same way.
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The endgame for the dollar is a stablecoin backed by Bitcoin.
That’s the narrative Saylor is pushing—it doesn’t prevent those who seek sovereignty and allows Bitcoin to scale while giving governments a way to save face.
A Sun Tzu strategy.
I kind of agree, in both case one is infinitely superior to the other
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i said competing with x is not be a winning strategy. it has to be something new, which it is.
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comparing nostr to twitter is a lose-lose situation cuz they’re incomparable.
nostr will win by being something new and different…
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…something entirely not the same kind of thing as twitter.
nostr would idunno maybe perhaps fail expectations if it is confined to being (just) a twitter.
nostr’s conceptual box, so to speak, is much bigger than what we can think of for twitter.
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nostr’s a protocol
‘tis not a platform
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I agree with you completely.💋🦁💋And, I will second that “nostr is not a platform but a protocol” which is exciting and new and different, especially for social media. Nostr has just as many cultural challenges to face as technological. People can’t quite grasp the concept of nostr… *yet*. Both mindsets and tech need to evolve before nostr is fully embraced like Vine.🌱🪴nostr is the future.🚀💜