So tired of this argument. The point is not to delete something with absolute certainty that it’s gone - we all know that is a lie, the point is to be able to fix obvious errors, accidental embarrassing posts - even if it’s not guaranteed. nostr:note1fmqsrzjhyfqqf7yt3zfrkjamhdyu3l4p6v9aqa7aun3yh7djdy5s44l9hn
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I fully support that and find it helpful. But the language used is misleading
“We’ll do our best to ask relays to delete this. Full deletion not guaranteed. Learn why->”
My original post was more a critique of this recent push to shame relays that don't do deletion, or deletion being something "crutial and essential" otherwise we're doomed.
I've used deletion requests countless times as well.
Just design in a way to show which relays didn’t delete. Inform the user. Let the user decide if they wish to continue publishing to those relays. No shaming necessary.
Those relays can pull their content in anyway.
There is also no definitive way to check a deletion without breaking any scheme that runs deletions every say 15 minutes.
Can we just call it a “withdraw”?
You are withdrawing your post, relays can decide to delete it and clients may decide to not show it or show a notice.
the old school word in distributed systems is "tombstone"
you have declared the event DED
i was inspired to write a short issue to add a few SHOULDs to the nip-09 spec :) just to try and mitigate the questions about the semantics such as the discussion of recent days
Maybe. If people understand what it means.
I agree here. that's not the intention of a freedom of speech protocol. Nostr was meant to be to say what you want, not for auto censor yourself
Nothing anyone posts on the internet can ever be deleted with certainty.
Are you guys coming to Nostriga??
Noticed many discussing this the last days...
I think it would be a good topic to discuss at a smaller in person gathering if some people are up for it?
I’m not
nerds be nerding