This is the smartest thing I’ve heard anyone yet say about Fuentes.

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i agree with the take but i disagree with "genius", he was not a genius.

Germans and others make the same mistakes again, on a lot of subjects.

All indications are clear that Hitler did in fact have a genius level IQ

i will check the internet, but all i saw from his book and speeches, i would disagree

Nazi high command was tested at Nuremberg and they all had genius or near genius level IQ’s. It wouldn’t make sense for a group like that to have a dumb leader. In order to keep command of a group of high IQ’s you yourself have to be high IQ.

He lost the war and destroyed his own country…some genius?

Genius is just a trait it doesn’t guarantee results. Like having a big dick doesn’t mean someone knows how to fuck.

made my day 😂

😂 Like having a huge ego doesn’t mean someone is a genius. You’re using ‘genius’ to mean like his cognitive capacity?

Genius is anyone over 140 IQ

A world view where everyone you hate must be stupid is retarded.

I didn’t call anyone stupid. I’m talking about definitions.

We’re using different definitions.

Mine is the correct definition though

So you’re just ignoring the primary and secondary definitions? Wild, IQ doesn’t show up in my dictionary at all. The only one that fits him in mine is the ‘evil genius’ sense, which is explicitly about influence, not intelligence, he100% qualifies there.

No I’m not ignoring it. Putting aside the moralilty. Taking over all of Europe definitely shows intellectual power.

Einstein was a socialist and a genius, some bitcoin developer are also a bit like that.

so, why not?

Einstein’s ‘genius’ is obvious because his work still explains the universe…as far as I’m aware? Hitler’s work was politics and war, and that ended in total collapse. I can’t see why people see him as a ‘genius’? Words are so fucking confusing. If outcomes don’t matter then surely everyone with potential is a ‘genius’?

i don't understand why you are writing "see him", there is a standard test for it, it's not a matter of opinion.

And in the Einstein example i just made the point that

"he was a genius and still fell for socialism."

i also don't see why outcomes should be relevant in this question.

😅 I can’t tell if you’re taking the piss? You previously said he wasn’t a genius?

So as far as I’m aware IQ is a measure of cognitive capacity (no mention of genius).

And ‘Genius’ is a label we give in retrospect, not a measurable trait. (That’s why I said “see him”.)

They are the definitions I adhere to.

I agree one can be a genius (Einstein E = mc²) and make bad choices, that’s innately human.

i said i believe he was not a genius

I was just referencing your earlier comment, it’s still in the thread. If your position is different now, that’s obviously fine.

it's not, but we switcht to IQ, and that's a kind of standard test.

anyway

they never tested him but they did some tests with the others in NĂźrnberg, they are quite high.

the average in germany is around 90-110

Don’t let what happen?

Yarvin is saying don’t let truth become taboo because it supercharges the truth tellers

Some "strike me down and I'll become more powerful" type energy

I agree with the point that we need way more people unafraid to say true things even if they’re hard, or not politically expedient.

What's wrong with deportations?

Nothing

Censorship eventually always backfires

Fuentes is going to be looked at as a moderate

yarvin usually gets it.

@hal

there have been dozens of people saying this exact same thing about fuentes for many months

it's not even true, there are also dozens of people saying same right things fuentes is saying without the stupid parts and these people aren't as famous as him

weirder than the fuentes phenomena is the phenomena of right wing influencers that talk about fuentes all the time trying to grab some of his fame

I don’t find that weird at all. Whoever is in the zeitgeist at any given timewill have the largest amount of people commenting on them.

Yeah his entire platform is based upon saying things that other people got cancelled for and getting away with it.

If he ran out of controversial things to say or people weren't so easy to trigger very few people would listen to him.

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You deserve to be hanged.

This claim is false.

Hitler's rise to power was the result of a complex interplay of factors, including economic instability, political maneuvering, propaganda, and the exploitation of democratic processes—not because he was the only one speaking the truth on many subjects. Historians widely agree that Hitler was not infallible and that his rule was marked by deception, manipulation, and catastrophic decisions. The idea that "all serious historians agree" Hitler was a genius is also false; most historians describe him as a demagogue with certain rhetorical and propagandistic skills, but not as a genius in any meaningful or positive sense.

You can verify this by checking academic sources on Hitler's rise to power and the consensus among historians regarding his abilities.

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-nazi-rise-to-power

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/zjjjh4j

https://jimsnowden.com/hitler-was-not-a-genius/

https://historum.com/t/was-hitler-a-militay-genius.89854/

Confidence Level: 95%

Verdict: False

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